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When inputting a dodge, a directional input will dictate it's direction. Dissidia 012 defines directional inputs with "towards the opponent" and "away from the opponent", which applies to both attacks and dodges. That means the direction is influenced by the opponent's position and the camera.
When inputting a dodge, a directional input will dictate it's direction. Dissidia 012 defines directional inputs with "towards the opponent" and "away from the opponent", which applies to both attacks and dodges. That means the direction is influenced by the opponent's position and the camera.


For example, when holding up while dodging at the start of a match, the player will dodge forward, towards the opponent and perform a forward ground dodge. Holding left or right will perform a side dodge. Holding back or having no directional input at all results in a backwards dodge.
For example, when holding up while dodging at the start of a match, the player will dodge towards the opponent and perform a forward ground dodge. Holding left or right will perform a side dodge. Holding back or having no directional input at all results in a backwards dodge.


If the camera is tilted to give a diagonal view, the up direction is more likely to result in a diagonal or a side ground dodge instead. This is because the camera is facing in a different direction, and not directly at the opponent.  
If the camera is tilted to give a diagonal view, the up direction is more likely to result in a diagonal or a side ground dodge instead. This is because the camera is facing in a different direction, and not directly at the opponent.  


Aerial dodge's direction works similiarly, though it only has one dodge state with it's own set of rules. These will be covered in the air dodge section.  
Aerial dodge's direction works similiarly, though it only has one dodge state with it's own set of rules. These will be covered in the air dodge section.


== Ground Dodge (Neutral / Backward) ==
== Ground Dodge (Neutral / Backward) ==

Revision as of 21:31, 18 February 2024

Dodge is a gameplay mechanic in Dissidia 012.

Overview

Dodge is one of the game's defensive options that is used to evade against incoming attacks. After equipping the two basic abilities, players can perform a swift evasive maneuver by pressing R + X that has 20 frames of invincibility (at 60 FPS).

Ground dodge has a few different versions depending on the directional input, while air dodge functions identically regardless of input. However, air dodge can move the character in a variety of different directions.

Dodging is a crucial defensive technique in competitive play, as it allows characters to make attacks safer to use, create openings against the opponent's attacks, generate assist meter more quickly and otherwise survive dire situations. Many attacks can be cancelled into a dodge earlier than other actions (known as "dodge cancel"), making it one of the most accessible defensive mechanics in the game. And because of the invincibility provided by other abilities, it is also one of the most powerful defensive mechanics overall.

Being able to facilitate favorable situations both with dodges and against them can greatly influence a character's ability to compete. Fall speed after a dodge directly impacts air dodges' safety, while the safety of acting out of a dodge is impacted by characters' individual repertoire.

Concepts such as dodge punishment and variable dodge timing become important at higher levels of play and the defensive blodge technique combines both dodging and blocking for even stronger defensive play.

Ability CP (Mastered) AP Description
Ground Evasion 10 (5) 50 On the ground, push R + X to dodge opponent's attack.
Midair Evasion 10 (5) 50 In the air, push R + X to dodge opponent's attack.

About Dodge Direction

When inputting a dodge, a directional input will dictate it's direction. Dissidia 012 defines directional inputs with "towards the opponent" and "away from the opponent", which applies to both attacks and dodges. That means the direction is influenced by the opponent's position and the camera.

For example, when holding up while dodging at the start of a match, the player will dodge towards the opponent and perform a forward ground dodge. Holding left or right will perform a side dodge. Holding back or having no directional input at all results in a backwards dodge.

If the camera is tilted to give a diagonal view, the up direction is more likely to result in a diagonal or a side ground dodge instead. This is because the camera is facing in a different direction, and not directly at the opponent.

Aerial dodge's direction works similiarly, though it only has one dodge state with it's own set of rules. These will be covered in the air dodge section.

Ground Dodge (Neutral / Backward)

Invincibility Attack
cancelable
Total duration
1~20F 29F 56F

A dodge that performs a backstep maneuver. Press R + X without directional input (hence the "neutral" dodge).

Because the neutral dodge has the earliest attack cancel window, it is often used to whiff attacks in quick succession for assist meter. Assist combos also benefit from this (e.g. Squall's repeated Thunder Barret) and of course, attacks with frame 1 block can defend while the invincibility from Evasion Boost is still in effect. This is the only ground dodge that allows it without Precision Evasion.

Ground Dodge (Side)

Invincibility Attack
cancelable
Total duration
1~20F 43F 56F

A sideways dodge that moves the character in a straight line. Press R + X while holding left, right or diagonal direction in relation to the opponent to move in that direction.

This ground dodge has the latest attack cancel window, possessing the largest gap of vulnerability between invincibility and the earliest possible action.

The game's battle tutorial teaches about ground dodges being possible with cardinal directions. However, diagonal directions work too and will move the character in that direction. The sideways dodge state is used in those instances can be used to position more accurately when defending against attacks. For example, Squall's Blasting Zone can be easier to whiff punish after a diagonal ground dodge.

Ground Dodge (Forward)

Invincibility Attack
cancelable
Dodge / block
cancelable
Total duration
1~20F 41F 57F 78F

A dodge that jumps over the opponent, effective at avoiding grounded attacks with little to no vertical reach. Press R + X while holding direction towards the opponent.

The total distance travelled is relatively short and once the vertical peak has been reached, the momentum will drastically slow down. That makes this one of the easier dodges to punish as it is less demanding in range, positioning and movement overall.

Punishing this dodge in ground-to-ground interactions requires committing to an anti-air attack or jumping, but the latter option also has significantly less risk.

Air Dodge

Invincibility Attack
cancelable
Dodge / block
cancelable
Total duration
1~20F 29F None 56F

A game-defining defensive option. Air dodge is an evasive maneuver that can stay in place or move the character in a direction.

Multiple directional inputs can be used to create an arc of movement for a dodge, resulting in a lot of flexibility for a character's positioning.

Just like with ground dodges, directional inputs in relation to the opponent (and camera) influence where an air dodge will move the character.

The level 100 Adamant Chains equipment set bonus stacks with the basic ability Midair Evasion Boost, and will increase the distance travelled with an air dodge even further.

Neutral (no direction)

This results in the character staying in place, while ascending a little bit. This can be used to gradually gain height or whiff punish advancing close range attacks used from a distance.

Up / diagonal up (towards opponent)

This moves the character in that direction while ascending greatly. This is the air dodge that gains the most height.

Left / right

These move the character sideways, with a little height boost.

Down / diagonal down (away from opponent)

This moves the character in that direction without gaining any height. When the dodge is ending, the character will begin to fall according to their fall speed. This is listed as fall speed ratio after a dodge and it is specific to every character. Characters with faster fall speed ratio will descend earlier than others, such as Kefka, Tidus and Prishe.

Dodges that move directly away from the opponent are very commonly used to create space or avoid most close range attacks, including ones with good reach or homing. Because of this, being able to reliably punish this dodge is a great asset in competitive play. This is where the effects of the Adamant Chains set bonus can be felt the most, as characters become even more reliant on Free Air Dash, walls or even [[Assist_(Dissidia_012)|assist] for counterplay.

Movement patterns

As mentioned earlier, the character is not committed to a single direction during air dodge. Multiple directions can be employed to fine-tune positioning and acquired height. These may be known as zig zag dodges or dodge arcs.

  • Left / Right > Right / Left / Up: Results in the least amount of vertical change of all angles.
  • Back > Forward: Stays relatively in place, but lose a little bit of height.
Invincibility Attack
cancelable
Total duration
1~20F 29F 56F

Camera Reset

By pressing the Select button, the game's camera can be reset to it's default angle. This can be used to remove ambiguity when attempting to dodge in a specific direction.

Ground / Midair Evasion Boost

Ability CP (Mastered) AP Description
Ground Evasion Boost 20 (10) 100 Increase movement distance for ground evasion.
Must enable Ground Evasion.
Midair Evasion Boost 20 (10) 100 Increase movement distance for midair evasion.
Must enable Midair Evasion.

Basic ability.

Increases dodge distance by 2m. Both ground and midair boosts are staple picks as the increased movement helps evading attacks more consistently regardless of remaining invincibility.

However, equipping ground evasion boost is not as important in air oriented match-ups where dodging on the ground may not happen often.

Evasion Boost

CP (Mastered) AP Description
20 (10) 100 Increase duration of invincibility after evasion.

Basic ability.

Evasion Boost doubles the invincibility time of all dodges from 20 frames to 40 frames.

The generous invincibility provided by this ability has had rippling effects in competitive play. Dodges have a much smaller window for any guaranteed punishment, bolstering defense for many characters while also restricting options for the attacker.

For one, this enables gapless defense for characters with defensive attacks such as Exdeath, Sephiroth and Jecht when cancelled out of a neutral ground dodge or any air dodge. And HP attacks that can punish air dodges such as Laguna's Ragnarok Blade now struggle to connect at all and presents a bigger risk to the user.

Because of Evasion Boost, dodge punishment is more difficult and risky across the board, but defending against attacks with strong tracking or projectiles also becomes a lot more reliable.

That is not to say dodging is entirely safe, far from it. However, much of Dissidia 012's established defensive gameplay can be attributed to the nature of dodge and the invincibility granted by this ability. Unfortunately, enforcing a ban on Evasion Boost can negatively impact tournament logistics - This is not an ability that that can be viewed in equipment briefing prior to a fight and the in-game battle information does not notify either player about it. As such, monitoring the use of this ability can be time consuming.

Evasion Boost remains a part of Dissidia 012's competitive play, but recent years have also had players engage in fights with mutual agreement of not using it.

Precision Evasion

CP (Mastered) AP Description
90 (45) 200 Evasions are more effective when well-timed.

If an attack is dodged within the first 4 frames of the dodge, this extra ability extends invincibility to the end of a dodge.

This means any character can act out of a dodge without a gap of vulnerability dodges usually have. Another dodge can be performed and it will be invincible, though it cannot trigger another Precision Evasion this way. Regular blocks are technically possible as well, but a more common application of guarding is seen with characters who possess an attack with frame 1 block properties. Warrior of Light's Shield of Light, Cloud of Darkness's [Wrath] Particle Beam and Jecht's Jecht Block all take advantage of this well.

Dodge punishment