Firion (Dissidia 012)

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Name Firion (フリオニール)
Original game Final Fantasy II
Base ATK (LV100) 111 (High)
Base DEF (LV100) 112 (High)
Run Speed 8 (Below Average)
Dash Speed 81 (Below Average)
Fall Speed 81 (Average)
Fall Speed Ratio After Dodge 38 (Average)
Fastest BRV
Fastest HP
1-Hit HP
HP Links
Command Block
Weapon All normal weapons, Parrying Weapons, Guns, Poles
Armor Bangles, Chestplates, Clothing, Hats, Headbands, Helms, Light Armor, Shields
Exclusive weapons Rebellion Army, Longinus, Wild Rose
Unlock
Alignment
Voice Actor (JP)
Voice Actor (ENG)


Strengths Weaknesses
  • Defensive ground combat - Specialised in fighting on the ground, Firion can stand toe-to-toe in close-range combat with a variety of attacks, such as quick poke Swordslash BRV and Shield Bash HP for post-dodge defense.
  • Damage - High base ATK stat, good damage multipliers and consistent wall rushes off of HP links and other HP attacks ensure Firion can establish a good health lead.
  • Ranged combat - Air braveries and more notably the Straightarrow HP can force opponents to disengage and move as well as punish mistimed dodges.
  • Anti-Zoning - Shield Bash represents a threat to most characters who operate with low priority projectiles from a distance.
  • Side by Side accessory_special.png - Firion synergises very well with this, raising the threat of HP attacks and reward off of HP links.
  • EX Mode's Blood Weapon - While not a top priority for Firion, regenerating health equal to HP damage dealt is amazing at creating comebacks.
  • Air combat - While Firion has tools for point-blank and long range, his floaty air dodges, low combo conversion potential, lack of effective post-dodge defense and quick approaching close-range attacks can create a lot of risk for him midair.
  • Enforcing defenders in his effective range - Firion's arsenal is not designed to easily enforce opponents hanging at a large stage's ceiling to engage with him. These situations often involve long-term strategies and build investment.
  • Punishable HP links - As a frequent HP link user, Double Trouble's long HP attack animation leave him vulnerable to counter attacks after Assist Change.


Overview

Firion is a defensive ground-oriented fighter who can engage at almost any range. Armed with quick pokes, mid range attacks, a command block, HP links and the notoriously strong Straightarrow HP, Firion is capable of setting the pace of a match on a moment's notice.

Ground is where Firion applies his melee attacks up close and at mid range. Poking and building assist meter with Swordslash, whiff punishing with Rope Knife, calling out defensive options with Lord of Arms and protecting himself from dodge punishment and projectiles with Shield Bash are all part of his winning strategies. Contesting him can be difficult and dangerous, as Firion can capitalise on his strong HP attacks and HP links to wall rush and generate a lot of meter.

What completes his melee combat however, is his ranged arsenal. The Magic Arts aerial braveries can discourage projectile usage, force the opponent to move and setup more damaging combos and his threatening Shield Bash counter projectiles. But most importantly, his Straightarrow HP can greatly restrict the opponent's offense, their ability to whiff safely and punish misplaced dodges with it's great aim, reach, delayable timing and projectile speed. With all of this combined, Firion can interact from a myriad of different ranges and angles while making it harder for opponents to approach him.

When it comes to builds, Firion is a well known user of the Side by Side accessory_special.png accessory thanks to his strong HPs across the board. A single Straightarrow or Shield Bash can greatly shift assist meter momentum in his favor, while his other HPs ensure damaging assist combos. Because of this, high base bravery and Side by Side are most likely to produce results in competitive play. His high base stats, grounded playstyle and great EX Mode perk provide incentives for other build styles as well. Few attacks produce good EX such as his Towards bravery followup and long range Shield Bash counter, but because they're not Firion's top priority moves in combos, his EX generation on hit tends to fall behind. EX Cores are a decent alternative, as Firion spends a lot of time on the ground where they typically spawn. And if the match goes on long enough for Firion to get a full EX meter, a single HP hit with the Blood Weapon HP regeneration can offset any health deficits or cement a health lead.

Firion's weaknesses become more apparent once he has to engage in the air. His dash speed is below average and the only melee bravery Swordslash has very short reach. While that's good for building assist meter, it is far from ideal for attacking, dodge punishment and whiff punishment alike. Firion's air dodges are floaty and can quickly become a sitting duck in the air, removing him from his ideal position. The Magic Arts braveries are all low priority, take a long time to come out and don't protect Firion from his front very well while he's casting. His Magic Arts: Frost has good forward movement but the reward for all Magic Arts on hit is often miniscule without wall rush and / or meter. And while it's true that Straightarrow is great at stopping opponents, verticality and fast running speed can be used to significantly reduce it's accuracy. Firion cannot quickly adjust his aim behind him, and he can only delay Straightarrow for a set amount of time before he is forced to fire it. This opens up Firion to whiff punishment with assist and at worst, suffer a bravery break and a guaranteed combo afterwards; A fact that extends to his other HP attacks as well.

All that is to say - Firion is good at interrupting opponent's actions, but he can struggle to open up more patient, aerial opponents. Two of his midair moves have downward knockback, but applying them against distant airborne characters such as Kefka and Sephiroth can prove challenging. In these circumstances, Firion's ways to interact and force opponents into his effective range are rather limited, and he may have to rely more on EX Cores to overcome these hardships.

Throughout most of the game's competitive lifespan, Firion has been considered a powerful, consistent high tier character. Thanks to his burst damage, relative ease of use and the ability to control the neutral and convert situations to HP damage, Firion is a distinct powerhouse who can compete with other strong close-range characters such as Zidane, Prishe and Jecht. He cannot discourage all aerial play, fight airborne opponents very effectively at close range or eliminate all risk associated with his strong HP attacks. But despite that, Firion is capable of shutting down much of the opposition.

Bravery Attacks

Ground

Base Damage 8, 12 (20+)
Startup Frame 19F
Damage Type Physical
Priority Melee Low
EX Force 15
Effects Chase, Wall Rush, Absorb
Cancels
Assist Gain (Hit)
CP (Mastered) 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level 		Mastered at
AP


[Close] Quick upward swing with lance. Slightly draws foe near.

Base Damage 20
Startup Frame 9F
Damage Type Physical
Priority Melee Low
EX Force 60
Effects Chase
Cancels
Assist Gain (Hit)
CP (Mastered) 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level 		Mastered at
AP


[Close] Quick sword slash. Short reach, but quick strike.

Base Damage 2 x 10 (20+)
Startup Frame 23F
Damage Type Physical
Priority Melee Low
EX Force 30
Effects Chase, Wall Rush, Absorb
Cancels
Assist Gain (Hit)
CP (Mastered) 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level 		Mastered at
AP


[Mid] Throw lightning knife. Good versus any height, long duration.

Base Damage 10, 10 (20+)
Startup Frame 47F
Damage Type Physical
Priority Ranged High
EX Force 15
Effects Chase, Wall Rush, Absorb
Cancels
Assist Gain (Hit)
CP (Mastered) 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level 		Mastered at
AP


[Long] Throw axe straight ahead at high speed.

Followups

Rope Knife, Lance Combo and Reel Axe can be followed up with one of the three followups. Since damage multipliers are identical with the bravery starters, the total damage multiplier in parenthesis reflects damage added by the followup itself.

Base Damage +25 (45)
Startup Frame ?
Damage Type Physical
Priority Melee Low
EX Force 0
Effects Wall Rush
Cancels
Assist Gain (Hit)
CP (Mastered)
Unlocked at
level 		Mastered at
AP

Base Damage +5, 5 (30)
Startup Frame ?
Damage Type Physical
Priority Melee Low (slash), Ranged Low (arrow)
EX Force 75
Effects Chase
Cancels
Assist Gain (Hit)
CP (Mastered)
Unlocked at
level 		Mastered at
AP

Base Damage + 1 x 5, 3 (28)
Startup Frame 11F
Damage Type Physical
Priority Melee Mid
EX Force 15
Effects Wall Rush
Cancels
Assist Gain (Hit)
CP (Mastered)
Unlocked at
level 		Mastered at
AP

Aerial

Base Damage each (10)
Startup Frame 25F
Damage Type Magical
Priority Ranged Low
EX Force 0
Effects --
Cancels
Assist Gain (Hit)
CP (Mastered) 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level 		Mastered at
AP


Magic combo starting with Fire. Can swap spell from second shot.

Base Damage each (12)
Startup Frame 25F
Damage Type Magical
Priority Ranged Low
EX Force 0
Effects Chase, Wall Rush
Cancels
Assist Gain (Hit)
CP (Mastered) 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level 		Mastered at
AP


Magic combo starting w/Blizzard. Can swap spell from second shot.

Base Damage each 4, 4, 7 (15)
Startup Frame 53F
Damage Type Magical
Priority Ranged Low
EX Force 0
Effects Chase, Wall Rush
Cancels
Assist Gain (Hit)
CP (Mastered) 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level 		Mastered at
AP


Magic combo starting w/Thunder. Can swap spell from second shot.

Base Damage 20
Startup Frame 9F
Damage Type Physical
Priority Melee Low
EX Force 0
Effects Wall Rush
Cancels
Assist Gain (Hit)
CP (Mastered) 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level 		Mastered at
AP


[Close] Slash in midair. Short reach, but quick strike.

Startup improved from 11F in the original to 9F in Duodecim.

HP Attacks

Ground

Base Damage Close: 4 x 4 (16) / Far: 3, 7 (10)
Startup Frame Block frame 1F~26F, end 49F
Damage Type Physical (close) / Magical (far)
Priority Block Mid, Melee High (close) / Ranged High (far)
EX Force 96 (close) / 60 (far)
Effects Block
Cancels
Assist Gain (Hit)
CP (Mastered) 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level 		Mastered at
AP


[Block] Create shield of light. HP attack on successful block.

The far version's last projectile can hit multiple times, generating 60 EX and depleting meter as many times as it registers as a hit.

Base Damage -
Startup Frame 61F
Damage Type -
Priority Ranged High
EX Force 30
Effects Wall Rush
Cancels
Assist Gain (Hit)
CP (Mastered) 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level 		Mastered at
AP


[Long] Fire arrow of light. Charge to adjust timiing.

Base Damage 4 x 5 (20)
Startup Frame 33F (above Firion), 49F (1st), 99F (2nd)
Damage Type Physical
Priority Melee High
EX Force 30
Effects Wall Rush
Cancels
Assist Gain (Hit)
CP (Mastered) 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level 		Mastered at
AP


[Mid] Use all weapons. Extremely accurate.

Base Damage 2, 1 x 6, 2 (+ 10 = 30)
Startup Frame ??
Damage Type Physical
Priority Melee High
EX Force 30
Effects Wall Rush
Cancels
Assist Gain (Hit)
CP (Mastered) 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level 		Mastered at
AP


Branching from Lance Combo. [Combo] Multi-weapon attack.

HP link.

Base Damage 2, 1 x 6, 2 (+ 10 = 30)
Startup Frame ?
Damage Type Physical
Priority Melee High
EX Force 30
Effects Wall Rush
Cancels
Assist Gain (Hit)
CP (Mastered) 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level 		Mastered at
AP


Branching from Rope Knife. [Combo] Multi-weapon attack.

Identical with Double Trouble A.

Base Damage 2, 1 x 6, 2 (+ 10 = 30)
Startup Frame ??
Damage Type Physical
Priority Melee High
EX Force 30
Effects Wall Rush
Cancels
Assist Gain (Hit)
CP (Mastered) 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level 		Mastered at
AP


Branching from Reel Axe. [Combo] Multi-weapon attack.

Identical with Double Trouble A.

Aerial

Base Damage -
Startup Frame 61F
Damage Type -
Priority Ranged High
EX Force 30
Effects Wall Rush
Cancels
Assist Gain (Hit)
CP (Mastered) 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level 		Mastered at
AP


[Long] Fire arrow of light. Charge to adjust timing.

Base Damage 2 x 11 (22)
Startup Frame 53F
Damage Type Physical
Priority Melee High
EX Force ~30
Effects Wall Rush
Cancels
Assist Gain (Hit)
CP (Mastered) 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level 		Mastered at
AP


[Mid] Use all weapons. Steals bravery, then HP attack.

EX Mode: Blood Weapon equipped!

Effects:

  • Regen
  • Critical Boost
  • Blood Weapon

Blood Weapon

[Activates when HP attack hits] Absorbs HP equivalent to damage dealt.

EX Burst: Fervid Blazer

A chain of attacks releasing the power of his weapons. Damage dealt adds to his own HP. Enter the commands that display before the attack.

Damage multiplier (initial) Damage multiplier (rest) Type
3 x 3 (9) 4 x 3, 5 x 2, 13, 6 x 2, 12, 4 x 8 (100 total) Physical


Builds

Builds here.

Stats
HP
CP
BRV
ATK
DEF
LUK
Max Booster
Special Effect:
Equipment
Assist
Weapon ddff-icon-equip-weapon.png
Hand ddff-icon-equip-hand.png
Head ddff-icon-equip-head.png
Body ddff-icon-equip-body.png
Accessory 1
Accessory 2
Accessory 3
Accessory 4
Accessory 5
Accessory 6
Accessory 7
Accessory 8
Accessory 9
Accessory 10
Summon ddff-icon-summonstone.png
{{{dataBRV}}} {{{dataHP}}}
Bravery attacks
Ground Aerial
HP attacks
Ground Aerial

ddff-icon-equip%20ability.pngindicates a "Gear" extra ability or the use of CP / Equipment glitch. The total CP cost will assume the glitch is done.

Stats
HP
CP
BRV
ATK
DEF
LUK
Max Booster
Special Effect:
Equipment
Assist
Weapon ddff-icon-equip-weapon.png
Hand ddff-icon-equip-hand.png
Head ddff-icon-equip-head.png
Body ddff-icon-equip-body.png
Accessory 1
Accessory 2
Accessory 3
Accessory 4
Accessory 5
Accessory 6
Accessory 7
Accessory 8
Accessory 9
Accessory 10
Summon ddff-icon-summonstone.png
{{{dataBRV}}} {{{dataHP}}}
Bravery attacks
Ground Aerial
HP attacks
Ground Aerial

ddff-icon-equip%20ability.pngindicates a "Gear" extra ability or the use of CP / Equipment glitch. The total CP cost will assume the glitch is done.

Assist

Firion's assist data.

Type Attack Startup Position Spawn Damage multiplier Effects
BRV Rope Knife 23F Ground Opponent 2 x 10, 25 (45) Wall Rush
BRV Magic Arts: Flame 25F Air Opponent 10 each (up to 30) -
HP Straightarrow 61F Ground Opponent - Wall Rush
HP Weaponmaster 52F Air Opponent 2 x 11 (22) Wall Rush


Firion works with a limited number of assists, but can also use The Emperor. Kuja

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