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Run'n'Gun, literally. After startup Laguna can move while firing but won't track the opponent while its firing.
Run'n'Gun, literally. After startup Laguna can move while firing but and slightly track opponent while firing.


It has relatively low range but good EX Force gain, and alot of characters can't swing right through it if they come at you headfirst. Combined with Electroshield you can punish ground dash attempts or force the opponent away into a more favorable position for you to Ricochet Shot from.
It has relatively low range but good EX Force gain, and alot of characters can't swing right through it if they come at you headfirst. Combined with Electroshield you can punish ground dash attempts or force the opponent away into a more favorable position for you to Ricochet Shot from.


It's possible to assist convert from aswell, although difficult and needs some practice since the low hitstun can break your assists hitstun. Use wisely.
It's possible to assist convert from aswell, but its finnicky and has very little hitstun to work with.  
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Your grounded main tool for alot of things. Whiff Punish, Poking, Converting into HPs, and some finnicky counterplay tech.
Fire a shot that ricochets off the ground and walls.
Your grounded main tool with alot of applications in neutral. A swiss army knife for his mid- to longrange pressure.


* Laguna can charge it for more split bullets when it collides with the ground/walls. Half Charge gives 3 split shots, Full Charge 5. All Split Bullets can still bounce by themselves.
The main shot is Mid priority while the ricochet bullet is Low priority.


* the main split bullet which does 35 base damage will always track the opponents current location after ricocheting off something, making it excellent for dodge punishes and trick shots.  
The move can be charged for more ricochet bullets while all hit seperately. Half Charge is 3 split shots, Full Charge 5. Only the main shot tracks the opponent after ricocheting, making it excellent for dodge punish, shooting past projectiles or behind them, and firing right above him.


* Potentially the hardest hitting move in his bravery kit if both the main bullet and smaller bullets hit. Mostly only at super close range or with godlike aim right at their feet.
Blocking this move can still reflect the ricochet, something to be mindful of. Same happens if it clashes and gets reflected by a move.


* Bounce bullets are Low priority, the main shot Mid. Blocking the main shot staggers them but can send the split bullet after you, giving you an opportunity to punish with assist right after if they get staggered.
The chase effect will cancel out if hitting someone with a full charge and only a single split bullet


* The chase effect will cancel out if hitting someone with a full charge and only a single split bullet, causing normal hitstun.


* You can hitconfirm into assists by dodge cancelling and calling assist right away on a ricochet hit. The timing is very lenient, with the fastest assists, and anyone faster than 20F can convert off of it point blank even. Practice and get a feel for it.
Solid move, a staple of grounded zoning, keepaway and mixups to pressure the opponent. Paired with Electroshield can be hard to contest and punish for the opponent. Don't overuse it, but do use it as much as you can.


Solid move, a staple of grounded zoning, keepaway and mixups to pressure the opponent. Paired with Electroshield can be hard to contest and punish for the opponent. Don't overuse it, but do use it as much as you can.
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Probably the lowest recovery move he has. Slow to come out but can be cancelled into block or dodge before it goes off, making you able to mix up your opponent should they rush at you to try and punish it. The low recovery also makes it nice to build assist with committing to Ricochet, but still keeping your grounded position.
Probably the lowest recovery move he has. Slow to come out but can be cancelled into block/dodge very quickly after the throw for mixups. Low recovery also makes it less committal to build assist meter with.


It can intercept moves with long startup aswell to force them to engage you, and you can combo off of it if you assume its gonna hit, or hitconfirm with an assist if you don't want to commit to an HP/Ricochet prior.
It can intercept moves with long startup aswell to force them to engage you, and you can combo off of it if you assume its gonna hit, or hitconfirm with an assist if you don't want to commit to an HP/Ricochet prior.
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Laguna the first guy in video game history smart enough to use his gun as a melee weapon.
Close range melee low to round out his all-range playstyle.  
This move makes the staple of Laguna's mixup, defensive, and EX game. A 2-hit Melee Low that is easy to hitconfirm with into Chase Setups and has top tier EX Gain. Decently low recovery which makes it decently safe and spammable, low range and vertical homing but 13F meaning it will trade with most moves of it's kind in the game. Ground version will put Laguna in the air, giving access to air dodges/air attacks, similar to Electro Shield.
 
Makes for a fast poke, as defense after dodges, great EX Force gain and decently low recovery after. Can be cancelled into itself faster than into block or dodge.
 
Has some vertical tracking but mostly horizontal move. Ground version makes Laguna go airborne after.




The only other move you can't miss in your kit in one way or another. Definitely a staple in the air to round up his all-ranges kit, and allows for consistent EX Gain outside of EX Cores. Be aware of blocking habits, don't get predictable with it. The ground version can be substituted for other tools, but it's handy to have on the ground either way.
A staple move in his moveset to have since it rounds out his close range game and helps out in a pinch. Learn to love this move.


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Revision as of 07:28, 20 April 2024


Info
Name Laguna Loire (ラグナ・レウァール)
Original game Final Fantasy VIII
Base ATK (LV100) 111 (High)
Base DEF (LV100) 110 (Low)
Run Speed 9 (Slow)
Dash Speed 81 (Below Average)
Fall Speed 75 (Above Average)
Fall Speed Ratio After Dodge 35 (Above Average)
Fastest BRV
Fastest HP
1-Hit HP
HP Links
Command Block
Weapon Swords, Daggers, Greatswords, Guns
Armor Shields, Bangles, Hats, Helms, Clothing, Light Armor, Chestplates
Exclusive weapons Machine Gun, High-Power Machine Gun, Ragnarok Pistol
Unlock
Alignment
Voice Actor (JP)
Voice Actor (ENG)


Combos page

Strategy page

Overview

Laguna is a midrange zoner with a balance between keepaway and rushdown tools. His strengths lie in his wide range of pokes to chip away at the opponents bravery and unique move properties, which allow him to have some unconventional strategies to play around his opponent.

His variety of ranges to work at gives Laguna the potential to always be able to threaten with something, wether its long range with Homing Bazooka, midrange with Ricochet Shot, or close range with Pummel and Electroshield.


However his biggest weakness lies in his long recovery on alot of key moves, making him easy to whiff punish on a mistake. Mixing up your options to throw off the opponent constantly is key to staying on defense with him, and watching the opponents resources to decide risk-reward accordingly.

If you like midrange play, poking away and cashing out huge with the right hit, and playing keepaway neutral, Laguna is your Man with the Machine Gun.

Bravery Attacks

Ground

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force Effects CP (Mastered)
1 x 32 (32) 31 Physical Ranged Low 3x32 (96) None 30 (15)

[Mid] Fire machine gun. Move with analog stick while holding button.


Run'n'Gun, literally. After startup Laguna can move while firing but and slightly track opponent while firing.

It has relatively low range but good EX Force gain, and alot of characters can't swing right through it if they come at you headfirst. Combined with Electroshield you can punish ground dash attempts or force the opponent away into a more favorable position for you to Ricochet Shot from.

It's possible to assist convert from aswell, but its finnicky and has very little hitstun to work with.

Aerial

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force Effects CP (Mastered)
1 x 6, 1 x 6, 3 x 6 (30) 21 Physical Ranged Low 2 (36) Wall Rush 30 (15)
Charged Version 55 Physical Ranged Mid 2 (36) Wall Rush 30 (15)

[Close] Fire shotgun. Charge to change its strength.


It's a shotgun! It fires like one! (except when charged)

Takes 55F to be charged and turned into a ranged mid priority. Slow and ranged low otherwise, but it has good range and can be dodge cancelled fairly early. Can't be dodge cancelled while charging.

Can be shot up to 3 times, helping conversions into assists. The last shot also wallrushes. It's tracking is limited as it only follows the opponent around you with limited vertical tracking. After the first shot it will also not track aswell anymore.


Not a very well-rounded tool, but it can have it's use in some matchups. It's very niche properties and slow startup are a crux without shield up though, make sure to use with care.

HP Attacks

Ground

Base damage Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
1 x 7 (7) 53F~172F (charge), 3F (release) Physical Melee High 21
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 40 (20)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


Mid] Bombard with lasers. Charge to adjust timing.


Laguna pulls out a grounded laser that unfortunately does not have infinite reach. TIME TO UNLOAD! Most of the time used to as combo ender and get a wall rush or distance, but has its uses on ground-to-ground interactions. The tracking is just enough to catch grounded side dodges and low air dodges with high fall speed e.g. Kain. At specific spacing it can also catch a grounded forward dodge.

At long range it still remains fantastic for huge whiff punishes against grounded HPs. Holding the move does not increase damage, but has a niche use in faking out against high priority blocks and against Exdeath's Maelstrom / Holy.

Less niche than Satellite Laser, but still not strong enough to be thrown out at all times.

Aerial

Base damage Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
- 43F - Melee High 0
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Long] Chop with energy blade. Effective against any height.

Laguna lifts up the Ragnarok and cuts down vertically with a long energy sword. An absolute staple of his punish game. GET EM!

One of Laguna's fastest HPs. At a distance, the hitbox appears instantly right above him, and it has amazing horizontal tracking. Due to these properties it's fantastic for punishing other whiffed HPs and moves with high recovery / startup safely out of range.

Because it starts right above him, it can also be used to get matchup specific punishes where others can't, or without risking getting punished themselves. Ragnarok Blade has good knockback and thus a fairly big wall rush radius. The knockback angle is based on where Laguna hits from.

No matter where Laguna will always rise a little, making it something to be considered when used in tight spacing or with shield up.

EX Mode: Look, the faeries are here!

Effects:

  • Regen
  • Critical Boost
  • A Faerie's Miracle

A Faerie's Miracle

[Always active while in EX Mode] The recovery time after bravery attacks can be cancelled by performing any attack.

EX Burst: Desperado

A furious bombardment of bullets. Take aim and press R to shoot or hold down the button for rapid fire.

Damage multiplier (initial) Damage multiplier (rest) Type
7 x 3, 11 (32) 1 x 40, 2 x 14 (68) (100 total) Physical


A shooting exercise minigame, hold down the R button to fire. Every hit you will drift off of them based on the center. The best way to deal with it is to stick to the edges and fire away. Land 40 hits to fill the gauge and unleash THE GREATEST ATTACK EVER.

This is actually a notable EX Burst. While the max damage with 100 is average as usual, the 32 base at the start before defense multiplier is the second highest in the game, tied with Lightning. Extremely useful for bravery breaks and subsequently tacking on extra damage.

Combos

Solo

Assist

Builds

Builds here.

Stats
HP 9377
CP 450
BRV 956
ATK 180
DEF 184
LUK 60
Max Booster x6.9
Special Effect: Judgment of Lufenia
Equipment
Assist Kuja / Jecht
Weapon ddff-icon-equip-weapon.png Lufenian Axe (CP Glitch)
Hand ddff-icon-equip-hand.png Lufenian Shield
Head ddff-icon-equip-head.png Lufenian Helm
Body ddff-icon-equip-body.png Auto Crossbow (CP Glitch)
Accessory 1 accessory_basic.png Muscle Belt
Accessory 2 accessory_basic.png Sniper Eye
Accessory 3 accessory_basic.png Battle Hammer
Accessory 4 accessory_booster.png Empty EX Gauge
Accessory 5 accessory_booster.png Summon Unused
Accessory 6 accessory_booster.png Pre-EX Mode
Accessory 7 accessory_booster.png Pre-EX Revenge
Accessory 8 accessory_booster.png Grounded
Accessory 9 accessory_booster.png Opponent Summon Unused
Accessory 10 accessory_special.png Side By Side
Summon ddff-icon-summonstone.png Rubicante
{{{dataBRV}}} {{{dataHP}}}
Bravery attacks
Ground Aerial
HP attacks
Ground Aerial

ddff-icon-equip%20ability.png indicates a "Gear" extra ability or the use of CP / Equipment glitch. The total CP cost will assume the glitch is done.

Assist

Laguna's assist data

Type Attack Startup Position Spawn Damage multiplier Effects
BRV Machine Gun 31F Ground Opponent 1 x 31 (31) -
BRV Shotgun 55F Air Opponent 1 x 6, 1 x 6, 3 x 6 (30) Wall Rush
HP Satellite Laser 83F Ground Player 2 x 8 (16) Wall Rush
HP Ragnarok Blade 43F Air Opponent - Wall Rush


Assists

Yuna, Jecht, Aerith.