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[[Lagune Loire (Dissidia 012)/Strategy|'''Strategy page''']]
[[Lagune Loire (Dissidia 012)/Strategy|'''Strategy page''']]
{{ProConTable
|pros=
* '''Good long and mid range braveries''': Excels at Long-to-Mid range zoning with Bazooka, Ricochet Shot and other tools to poke and pressure far away
* '''Long range HPs: Satellite Laser, Split Laser and Ragnarok Blade together give him a wide range of space he can land and threaten HPs from
* '''Electroshield''': Electroshield alone limits alot of options, auto-reflects infront of you and synergizes well with the rest of his kit
* '''Niche, but interesting properties''': Satellite Laser's vertical range, Bazooka's "fake" mid priority, Sticky Bomb Unblockable etc. allow for unconventional gameplay.
* '''Damaging pokes''': Decent damage on his most common pokes and 111 ATK Stat put him above average in damage potential
* '''Fairly damaging EX Revenge''': EX Revenge combos can hurt quite alot, giving him a good chance to turn the match off of it
|cons=
* '''Committal Neutral''': Long recovery on his best tools, easy assist punishable HPs and a lack of safe poke to throw out locks Laguna into his decisions, and a mistake can leave him open to punishes quickly
* '''Limited combos and poke conversions''': Lacks conversions off of alot of key pokes, and the ones he has are limited to specific assists / situations. On top of it, he struggles putting together extended combos without very specific scenarios or Sticky Bomb.
* '''Relies on Electroshield for keepaway''': With how good it is, it's the crux of his keepaway as it covers the blind spots of his other moves
* '''Bad EX Mode''': Cool idea, but hard for him to capitalize on'
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== Overview ==
== Overview ==

Revision as of 11:22, 20 February 2024


Info
Name Laguna Loire (ラグナ・レウァール)
Original game Final Fantasy VIII
Base ATK (LV100) 111 (High)
Base DEF (LV100) 110 (Low)
Run Speed 9 (Slow)
Dash Speed 81 (Below Average)
Fall Speed 75 (Above Average)
Fall Speed Ratio After Dodge 35 (Above Average)
Fastest BRV
Fastest HP
1-Hit HP
HP Links
Command Block
Weapon Swords, Daggers, Greatswords, Guns
Armor Shields, Bangles, Hats, Helms, Clothing, Light Armor, Chestplates
Exclusive weapons Machine Gun, High-Power Machine Gun, Ragnarok Pistol
Unlock
Alignment
Voice Actor (JP)
Voice Actor (ENG)


Combos page

Strategy page

Overview

Laguna is a midrange zoner with a balance between keepaway and rushdown tools. His strengths lie in his wide range of pokes to chip away at the opponents bravery and unique move properties, which allow him to have some unconventional strategies to play around his opponent.

His variety of ranges to work at gives Laguna the potential to always be able to threaten with something, wether its long range with Homing Bazooka, midrange with Ricochet Shot, or close range with Pummel and Electroshield.


However his biggest weakness lies in his long recovery on alot of key moves, making him easy to whiff punish on a mistake. Mixing up your options to throw off the opponent constantly is key to staying on defense with him, and watching the opponents resources to decide risk-reward accordingly.

If you like midrange play, poking away and cashing out huge with the right hit, and playing keepaway neutral, Laguna is your Man with the Machine Gun.

Bravery Attacks

Ground

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force Effects CP (Mastered)
1 x 32 (32) 31 Physical Ranged Low 3x32 (96) None 30 (15)

[Mid] Fire machine gun. Move with analog stick while holding button.


Run'n'Gun, literally. Laguna can't move during startup, but move while firing with his usual walk speed. Limited vertical aim and can't turn while firing, due to it's low hitstun has to close-in to keep the opponent locked..

Not the best move due to it's terrible range for a machine gun, but generates a lot of EX and allows for assist conversions although hard ones due to very low hitstun. Low Priority means they can dash through, but not contestable by alot of the cast while in its path. If used at all, don't get reckless, have a shield up for secondary cover.

Aerial

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force Effects CP (Mastered)
1 x 6, 1 x 6, 3 x 6 (30) 21 Physical Ranged Low 2 (36) Wall Rush 30 (15)
Charged Version 55 Physical Ranged Mid 2 (36) Wall Rush 30 (15)

[Close] Fire shotgun. Charge to change its strength.

It's a shotgun! It fires like one! (except when charged) Takes 55F to be charged and turned into a mid. Although slow and ranged low, it has good range and can be dodge cancelled fairly early. Unfortunately it can't be dodge-cancelled mid charge, making charging it very commital and easily punished by alot of the cast. It can be shot up to 3 times each delayable, making this very easy to convert into assists and combos. The last shot will wallrush close by, adding to this. It's tracking is limited as it only follows the opponent around you with limited vertical tracking. After the first shot it will also not track anymore.

Not a very well-rounded tool, but it can have it's use in some matchups. It's very niche properties and slow startup are a crux without shield up and easily punished on reaction/early shot.

HP Attacks

Ground

Base damage Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
1 x 7 (7) 53F~172F (charge), 3F (release) Physical Melee High 21
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 40 (20)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


Mid] Bombard with lasers. Charge to adjust timing.


Laguna pulls out a grounded laser that unfortunately does not have infinite reach. TIME TO UNLOAD! Most of the time used to as combo ender and get a wall rush or distance, but has its uses on ground-to-ground interactions. The tracking is just enough to catch grounded side dodges and low air dodges with high fall speed e.g. Kain. At specific spacing it can also catch a grounded forward dodge.

At long range it still remains fantastic for huge whiff punishes against grounded HPs. Holding the move does not increase damage, but has a niche use in faking out against high priority blocks and against Exdeath's Maelstrom / Holy.

Less niche than Satellite Laser, but still not strong enough to be thrown out at all times.

Aerial

Base damage Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
- 43F - Melee High 0
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Long] Chop with energy blade. Effective against any height.

Laguna lifts up the Ragnarok and cuts down vertically with a long energy sword. An absolute staple of his punish game. GET EM!

One of Laguna's fastest HPs. At a distance, the hitbox appears instantly right above him, and it has amazing horizontal tracking. Due to these properties it's fantastic for punishing other whiffed HPs and moves with high recovery / startup safely out of range.

Because it starts right above him, it can also be used to get matchup specific punishes where others can't, or without risking getting punished themselves. Ragnarok Blade has good knockback and thus a fairly big wall rush radius. The knockback angle is based on where Laguna hits from.

No matter where Laguna will always rise a little, making it something to be considered when used in tight spacing or with shield up.

EX Mode: Look, the faeries are here!

Effects:

  • Regen
  • Critical Boost
  • A Faerie's Miracle

A Faerie's Miracle

[Always active while in EX Mode] The recovery time after bravery attacks can be cancelled by performing any attack.

EX Burst: Desperado

A furious bombardment of bullets. Take aim and press R to shoot or hold down the button for rapid fire.

Damage multiplier (initial) Damage multiplier (rest) Type
7 x 3, 11 (32) 1 x 40, 2 x 14 (68) (100 total) Physical


A shooting exercise minigame, hold down the R button to fire. Every hit you will drift off of them based on the center. The best way to deal with it is to stick to the edges and fire away. Land 40 hits to fill the gauge and unleash THE GREATEST ATTACK EVER.

This is actually a notable EX Burst. While the max damage with 100 is average as usual, the 32 base at the start before defense multiplier is the second highest in the game, tied with Lightning. Extremely useful for bravery breaks and subsequently tacking on extra damage.

Builds

Builds here.

Stats
HP
CP
BRV
ATK
DEF
LUK
Max Booster
Special Effect:
Equipment
Assist
Weapon ddff-icon-equip-weapon.png
Hand ddff-icon-equip-hand.png
Head ddff-icon-equip-head.png
Body ddff-icon-equip-body.png
Accessory 1
Accessory 2
Accessory 3
Accessory 4
Accessory 5
Accessory 6
Accessory 7
Accessory 8
Accessory 9
Accessory 10
Summon ddff-icon-summonstone.png
{{{dataBRV}}} {{{dataHP}}}
Bravery attacks
Ground Aerial
HP attacks
Ground Aerial

ddff-icon-equip%20ability.png indicates a "Gear" extra ability or the use of CP / Equipment glitch. The total CP cost will assume the glitch is done.

Assist

Type Attack Startup Position Spawn Damage multiplier Effects
BRV Machine Gun 31F Ground Opponent 1 x 31 (31) -
BRV Shotgun 55F Air Opponent 1 x 6, 1 x 6, 3 x 6 (30) Wall Rush
HP Satellite Laser 83F Ground Player 2 x 8 (16) Wall Rush
HP Ragnarok Blade 43F Air Opponent - Wall Rush