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Muggshotter: /* Combos */

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Combos

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	Tidus has very few solo combos and they're not very beginner friendly. The most practical solo combo involves Dart & Weave, which is not his most commonly used dodge attack. Don't sweat it though, Tidus builds meter well and he relies on it most of the time to convert to HP damage.		Tidus has very few solo combos and they're not very beginner friendly. The most practical solo combo involves Dart & Weave, which is not his most commonly used dodge attack. Don't sweat it though, Tidus builds meter well and he relies on it most of the time to convert to HP damage.

	As for assists~~...~~ Tidus works really well with {{012aer}} assist. If you're not used to her, Tidus is a great opportunity to learn. With Aerith, Tidus can combo pretty much anywhere on the stage without ever getting a [[Wall_Rush_(Dissidia_012_Final_Fantasy)\|~~'''~~Wall Rush''']] while still getting plenty of EX. What makes her awkward to use at first is the longer startup on Seal Evil assist~~, you~~ are required to call her a bit earlier than other assists.		As for assists, Tidus works really well with {{012aer}} assist. If you're not used to her, Tidus is a great opportunity to learn. With Aerith, Tidus can combo pretty much anywhere on the stage without ever getting a '''[[Wall_Rush_(Dissidia_012_Final_Fantasy)\|Wall Rush]]''' while still getting plenty of EX. What makes her awkward to use at first is the longer startup on Seal Evil assist; You are required to call her a bit earlier than other assists.

	Hop Step is your most important bravery, so learning to use Aerith with it will go a long way. The basic idea is to do both attacks with Hop Step, call Aerith with L {{pspl}} + ~~Circle~~ {{pspcir}} ''before'' the ~~{{pspcro}}~~ [[Chase_(Dissidia_012)\|~~'''~~Chase''']] prompt appears, then go into Chase and do an HP attack. If the opponent dodges the HP, Aerith will trap them. If not, Tidus will inflict HP damage. Look at the example videos linked in the table below, it will make more sense when you see it first-hand.		Hop Step is your most important bravery, so learning to use Aerith with it will go a long way. The basic idea is to do both attacks with Hop Step, call Aerith with L + Circle ({{pspl}} + {{pspcir}}) ''before'' the '''[[Chase_(Dissidia_012)\|Chase]]''' ({{pspcro}}) prompt appears, then go into Chase and do an HP attack. If the opponent dodges the HP, Aerith will trap them. If not, Tidus will inflict HP damage. Look at the example videos linked in the table below, it will make more sense when you see it first-hand.

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	\|Hop Step > Aerith > Chase > Chase HP > HP dodged > air jump (behind opponent) > Cut & Run > Quick Hit \|\| 55-61 + HP WR (7, 13, 2x2~2x5, 24, 1x4, 3 + HP WR) \|\| 195 (90, 15, 90) \|\| If the opponent dodges the chase HP, this generates more EX and still lets Tidus follow up with more bravery damage. But ''only'' if it's evaded this way; Opting to eat the chase HP can end the combo early without wall rush. \|\| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDOs-TVaqYg&t=136 '''Video''']		\|Hop Step > Aerith > Chase > Chase HP > HP dodged > air jump (behind opponent) > Cut & Run > Quick Hit \|\| 55-61 + HP WR (7, 13, 2x2~2x5, 24, 1x4, 3 + HP WR) \|\| 195 (90, 15, 90) \|\| Bread and butter. If the opponent dodges the chase HP, this generates more EX and still lets Tidus follow up with more bravery damage. But ''only'' if it's evaded this way; Opting to eat the chase HP can end the combo early without wall rush. \|\| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDOs-TVaqYg&t=136 '''Video''']
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	\|Full Slide (2 parts) > Aerith > DC > Free Air Dash > Cut & Run > Quick Hit \|\| 54~66 + HP WR (2x3~2x6, 5, 8, 2x2~2x5, 24, 1x4, 3 + HP WR) \|\| 120 (30, 90) \|\| ~~Reliable~~ wall-less combo. Call Aerith after pressing the second attack. If the ceiling is closer than wall, you can opt for Jecht Shot ender instead for wall rush damage. \|\| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDOs-TVaqYg&t=75 '''Video''']		\|Full Slide (2 parts) > Aerith > DC > Free Air Dash > Cut & Run > Quick Hit \|\| 54~66 + HP WR (2x3~2x6, 5, 8, 2x2~2x5, 24, 1x4, 3 + HP WR) \|\| 120 (30, 90) \|\| Bread and butter wall-less combo. Call Aerith after pressing the second attack. If the ceiling is closer than wall, you can opt for Jecht Shot ender instead for wall rush damage. \|\| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDOs-TVaqYg&t=75 '''Video''']
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	\|Full Slide (Wall Rush)> Aerith > WR > Free Air Dash > Jecht Shot \|\| 49~60 + HP WR (40 + WR, 15~20 + HP WR) \|\| 60 (30, 30) \|\| If you know you can get a wall splat, call Aerith right before the opponent sticks on the wall. \|\| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDOs-TVaqYg&t=87 '''Video''']		\|Full Slide (Wall Rush)> Aerith > WR > Free Air Dash > Jecht Shot \|\| 49~60 + HP WR (40 + WR, 15~20 + HP WR) \|\| 60 (30, 30) \|\| If you know you can get a wall splat, call Aerith right before the opponent sticks on the wall. \|\| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDOs-TVaqYg&t=87 '''Video''']

Muggshotter: /* Strategy */ Adjusted wording to make it easier to understand.

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Strategy: Adjusted wording to make it easier to understand.

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	= Strategy =		= Strategy =
	Tidus works primarily as an aerial fighter. You will be using Hop Step a lot. This lightning fast bravery is at the core of Tidus' poking, meter and punishment game, with other moves supporting it in different ways. Build assist meter ~~with~~ Hop Step and alternate with Full Slide to avoid diminishing returns, then look for an opportunity to convert either of those moves into assist. Dodge cancel any and all attacks with R ({{pspr}}) + ~~Cross (~~{{pspcro}}). Free Air Dash to ~~close~~ the ~~gap~~, then strike immediately or delay with an air jump. Air jumps let Tidus move comfortably without much risk, which is good for feints, positioning and ~~turtling~~. Air dodging backwards is often enough to avoid any typical close range attack, especially at beginner level. So pay attention to when the opponent is approaching and create space with a well timed dodge.		Tidus works primarily as an aerial fighter. You will be using Hop Step a lot. This lightning fast bravery is at the core of Tidus' poking, meter and punishment game, with other moves supporting it in different ways. Build assist meter by using Hop Step and alternate with Full Slide to avoid diminishing returns, then look for an opportunity to convert either of those moves into an assist combo. Dodge cancel any and all attacks with R + Cross ({{pspr}} + {{pspcro}}). Use Free Air Dash to quickly approach the opponent, then strike immediately or delay with an air jump. Air jumps let Tidus move comfortably without much risk, which is good for feints, positioning and defending. Air dodging backwards is often enough to avoid any typical close range attack, especially at beginner level. So pay attention to when the opponent is approaching Tidus and create space with a well timed dodge.

	If it looks like the opponent will hit you after the dodge is over, it's time to use one of your dodge attacks ~~as the~~ third aerial bravery. Cut & Run's evasion and damage output provides a good balance against most characters, but others work situationally just as well. If this dodge attack connects, transition to the Quick Hit HP link by pressing Square ({{pspsqu}}) and reap the rewards.		If it looks like the opponent will hit you after the dodge is over, it's time to use one of your dodge attacks. The third aerial bravery slot should be used for one of them. Cut & Run's evasion and damage output provides a good balance against most characters, but others work situationally just as well. If this dodge attack connects, transition to the Quick Hit HP link by pressing Square ({{pspsqu}}) and reap the rewards.

	[[File:Brv_tidus_hop_step_a.jpeg\|thumb\|300px\|Hop Step is life.]]		[[File:Brv_tidus_hop_step_a.jpeg\|thumb\|300px\|Hop Step is life.]]
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	There are few reasons to play on the ground. If there are no quickmoves nearby, touching ground resets air jumps. Reverse Ground Dash (basic ability) helps Tidus create distance safely ''and'' build assist gauge. When your assist gauge is locked, this is an excellent strategy for just buying time, even though it doesn't generate any meter. Tidus moves fast enough to force approaching opponents into guessing when he stops. Keep them guessing with Hop Step, Sonic Buster and Sphere Shot, but most importantly Hop Step. Do not use the dodge bravery attacks carelessly, they are slow and ~~they~~ lose to regular block on reaction. Always try to confirm an opening with Hop Step (or Full Slide) first, then save HP attacks and dodge attacks for big, clear openings.		There are few reasons to play on the ground. If there are no '''[[Quickmove_(Dissidia_012)\|quickmoves]]''' nearby, touching ground resets air jumps. Reverse Ground Dash (basic ability) helps Tidus create distance safely ''and'' build assist gauge. When your assist gauge is locked, this is an excellent strategy for just buying time, even though it doesn't generate any meter. Tidus moves fast enough to force approaching opponents into guessing when he stops. Keep them guessing with Hop Step, Sonic Buster and Sphere Shot, but most importantly Hop Step. Do not use the dodge bravery attacks carelessly, because they are slow and lose to regular block on reaction. Always try to confirm an opening with Hop Step (or Full Slide) first, then save HP attacks and dodge attacks for big, clear openings.

	= Combos =		= Combos =

Muggshotter: /* Strategy */

2024-09-28T23:12:00Z

Strategy

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	There are few reasons to play on the ground. If there are no quickmoves nearby, touching ground resets air jumps. Reverse Ground Dash (basic ability) helps Tidus create distance safely ''and'' build assist gauge. When your assist gauge is locked, this is an excellent strategy for just buying time, even though it doesn't generate any meter. Tidus moves fast enough to force ~~most~~ opponents into guessing when he stops. Keep them guessing with Hop Step, Sonic Buster and Sphere Shot, but most importantly Hop Step. Do not use the dodge bravery attacks carelessly, they are slow and they lose to regular block on reaction. Always try to confirm an opening with Hop Step (or Full Slide) first, then save HP attacks and dodge attacks for big, clear openings.		There are few reasons to play on the ground. If there are no quickmoves nearby, touching ground resets air jumps. Reverse Ground Dash (basic ability) helps Tidus create distance safely ''and'' build assist gauge. When your assist gauge is locked, this is an excellent strategy for just buying time, even though it doesn't generate any meter. Tidus moves fast enough to force approaching opponents into guessing when he stops. Keep them guessing with Hop Step, Sonic Buster and Sphere Shot, but most importantly Hop Step. Do not use the dodge bravery attacks carelessly, they are slow and they lose to regular block on reaction. Always try to confirm an opening with Hop Step (or Full Slide) first, then save HP attacks and dodge attacks for big, clear openings.

	= Combos =		= Combos =

Muggshotter: /* Strategy */

2024-09-28T23:10:41Z

Strategy

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	= Strategy =		= Strategy =
	Tidus works primarily as an aerial fighter. You will be using Hop Step a lot~~, this~~ lightning fast bravery is at the core of Tidus' poking, meter and punishment game, with other moves supporting it in different ways. Build assist meter with Hop Step and alternate with Full Slide to avoid diminishing returns, then look for an opportunity to convert either of those moves into assist. Dodge cancel any and all attacks with R ({{pspr}}) + Cross ({{pspcro}}). Free Air Dash to close the gap, then strike immediately or delay with an air jump. Air jumps let Tidus move comfortably without much risk, which is good for feints, positioning and turtling. Air dodging backwards is often enough to avoid any typical close range attack, especially at beginner level. So pay attention to when the opponent is approaching and create space with a well timed dodge.		Tidus works primarily as an aerial fighter. You will be using Hop Step a lot. This lightning fast bravery is at the core of Tidus' poking, meter and punishment game, with other moves supporting it in different ways. Build assist meter with Hop Step and alternate with Full Slide to avoid diminishing returns, then look for an opportunity to convert either of those moves into assist. Dodge cancel any and all attacks with R ({{pspr}}) + Cross ({{pspcro}}). Free Air Dash to close the gap, then strike immediately or delay with an air jump. Air jumps let Tidus move comfortably without much risk, which is good for feints, positioning and turtling. Air dodging backwards is often enough to avoid any typical close range attack, especially at beginner level. So pay attention to when the opponent is approaching and create space with a well timed dodge.

	If it looks like the opponent will hit you after the dodge is over, it's time to use one of your dodge attacks as the third aerial bravery. Cut & Run's evasion and damage output provides a good balance against most characters, but others work situationally just as well. If this dodge attack connects, transition to the Quick Hit HP link by pressing Square ({{pspsqu}}) and reap the rewards.		If it looks like the opponent will hit you after the dodge is over, it's time to use one of your dodge attacks as the third aerial bravery. Cut & Run's evasion and damage output provides a good balance against most characters, but others work situationally just as well. If this dodge attack connects, transition to the Quick Hit HP link by pressing Square ({{pspsqu}}) and reap the rewards.

Muggshotter: /* Overview */

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Overview

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	* '''Great mobility''' - High run speed, dash speed and movement during attacks provide utility on offense and defense. Tidus can be very difficult to punish when played well.		* '''Great mobility''' - High run speed, dash speed and movement during attacks provide utility on offense and defense. Tidus can be very difficult to punish when played well.
	* '''Post-dodge fast faller''' - After air dodging, Tidus' fast fall speed lets him evade attacks naturally with ease.		* '''Post-dodge fast faller''' - After air dodging, Tidus' fast fall speed lets him evade attacks naturally with ease.
	* '''Double dodges''' - Dodge attacks allow Tidus to extend invincibility against imminent counterattacks.		* '''Double dodges''' - Dodge attacks allow Tidus to extend invincibility after a regular dodge against imminent counterattacks.
	* '''Consistent gameplan''' - Hop Step pokes, Reverse Ground Dash turtling and symmetric ground & air moveset are reliable at all levels of play.		* '''Consistent gameplan''' - Hop Step pokes, Reverse Ground Dash turtling and symmetric ground & air moveset are reliable at all levels of play.
	* '''Good EX''' - Builds EX reliably from pokes and HPs. Strong EX Mode that's more powerful at high health, with one of the strongest EX Bursts in the game.		* '''Good EX''' - Builds EX reliably from pokes and HPs. Strong EX Mode that's more powerful at high health, with one of the strongest EX Bursts in the game.

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[[Category:Starter Guide (Dissidia 012)]] [[Category:Dissidia 012 Final Fantasy]]

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A starter guide page for the character. The idea is to be a condensed version of the general character page that's more digestible to new players. Key moves, general gameplan, a few good / easy and harder matchups for perspective. What the player should start with, what they should focus on, one or two assists and a couple combos to go with them. An example build.

= Overview =

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