Tidus (Dissidia 012) - Revision history

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Muggshotter: /* Builds */

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Builds

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	== Substitutes ==		== Substitutes ==

	{~~\| class="wikitable"~~		{{Build-Substitute
	\|~~+colspan~~=~~"3"\|Substitutes~~		\|datasub=
	~~! Equipment !! Replacement !! Notes~~		{{Build-SubstituteData
	\|-		\|item=After 30 Seconds {{accboo}}
	\| After 30 Seconds {{accboo}} \|\|		\|substitute=BRV > Base Value {{accboo}} <br>Battle Hammer {{accbas}} <br>Winged Boots {{accsp}}
	* Winged Boots {{~~accsp~~}}		\|notes=Bravery damage increase. Alternatively, can be used for assist gauge depletion or banish trap bravery reduction.
	* Hero's Essence {{~~accsp~~}}		}}
	* Battle Hammer {{~~accbas~~}}		{{Build-SubstituteData
	\|~~\| The 1~~.~~2x booster accessory decreases damage and EX depletion slightly~~, ~~but may~~ be ~~changed at the player's discretion~~ for ~~reduced~~ banish trap ~~damage, increased CP or assist depletion respectively~~.		\|item=Dismay Shock {{accbas}} <br>After 30 Seconds {{accboo}}
	\|-		\|substitute=BRV > Base Value {{accboo}} <br>Opponent Empty EX Gauge {{accboo}}
	\| ~~Opponent Summon Unused~~ {{accboo}} \|~~\| Winged Boots~~ {{~~accsp~~}} ~~/ Hero's Essence~~ {{~~accsp~~}} ~~/ Battle Hammer~~ {{~~accbas~~}} ~~\|\| If the player believes the opponent will not have a summon equipped~~, ~~they may change~~ this ~~booster specifically instead~~.		\|notes=Against opponents who use Side by Side {{accsp}}, this is an even bigger bravery damage increase.
	\|}		}} }}

	= Attacks =		= Attacks =

Muggshotter: /* Assist */ Moved contents of "conclusion" to overview. Adjusted wording for overview.

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	== Tidus Assist Overview ==		== Tidus Assist Overview ==
	Tidus is one of the established viable assists in competitive play. He is not a universally effective assist ~~in the way that~~ Kuja is, but what he brings to the table is ~~nothing to sneeze at~~. ~~Tidus' bravery~~ assists provide a combination of easier whiff punishes in terms of frame data and extended ground combos, while his air HP can be used in chase sequences to set up inescapable damage. Ground HP can harass for a good few seconds if the opponent doesn't jump out of the way, but your mileage may vary.		Tidus is one of the established viable assists in competitive play. He is not a universally effective assist like Kuja, but what he brings to the table is good in its own right. Bravery assists provide a combination of easier whiff punishes in terms of frame data and extended ground combos, while his air HP can be used in chase sequences to set up inescapable damage. Ground HP can harass for a good few seconds if the opponent doesn't jump out of the way, but your mileage may vary.

			Tidus assist excels in many important areas, but his damage potential pales in comparison to other competitive assists. He also doesn't have Ranged priority moves, but that's a common detriment for assists. That being said, Assist Chase is surprisingly rare among air BRV assists, which helps keep Tidus assist afloat in the competition. He is at his best when he gets to do air BRV often or utilize both braveries.

			''Further reading:'' '''[[Tier_List_(Assist)#Tidus\|Tidus overview in assist tier list]]'''

	=== Sonic Buster ===		=== Sonic Buster ===
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	Slice and Dice is significantly slower to start than Spiral Cut and does not stay on the field nearly as long (on whiff), but it is not entirely without merit either. Slice & Dice has more tracking than Hop Step to help with interruptions and charge has enough reach to catch opponents during Chase. As long as the preceding attack does not have obscenely high knockback, it is possible to initiate Chase, perform an HP attack and have Tidus do the rest if the opponent dodged the first HP. On the off chance that both HPs connect and send the opponent flying, Slice & Dice homes in on the opponent very aggressively for long distances. And because this ''also'' yields Assist Chase, it pretty much guarantees a followup of some sort.		Slice and Dice is significantly slower to start than Spiral Cut and does not stay on the field nearly as long (on whiff), but it is not entirely without merit either. Slice & Dice has more tracking than Hop Step to help with interruptions and charge has enough reach to catch opponents during Chase. As long as the preceding attack does not have obscenely high knockback, it is possible to initiate Chase, perform an HP attack and have Tidus do the rest if the opponent dodged the first HP. On the off chance that both HPs connect and send the opponent flying, Slice & Dice homes in on the opponent very aggressively for long distances. And because this ''also'' yields Assist Chase, it pretty much guarantees a followup of some sort.

	==~~= Conclusion ===~~		== Synergies ==
	Tidus assist excels in many important areas, but in terms of damage potential he tends to fall behind in comparison to other competitive assists. He also doesn't have Ranged priority moves, which is a common detriment for assist characters. That being said, Assist Chase is surprisingly rare among air BRV assists, which helps keep Tidus assist afloat in the competition. But this is not always enough. His other attacks have to be of some value to the player (character) for him to truly shine.

	~~== Assists~~ ==
	<tabber>		<tabber>
	\|-\|Aerith=		\|-\|Aerith=

Muggshotter: /* Bravery Attacks */

2025-04-24T23:35:10Z

Bravery Attacks

Muggshotter: /* Overview */

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Overview

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	* Caladbolg (DODGE)		* Caladbolg (DODGE)

	= Overview =		== Overview ==
	Tidus' EX mode supports his long term gameplan and comes with few good supporting perks. The big cherry on top is his Caladbolg (ATK) that scales bravery base damage up to 2x at full health. This applies to all of his attacks that deal bravery damage, including EX Burst. That alone makes it great for closing out matches with a good lead. EX Burst is one of the weakest in the game when Tidus is at low health, but because EX mode adds critical hit rate and depletes the opponent's assist gauge upon activation, this is still good for securing a win.		Tidus' EX mode supports his long term gameplan and comes with few good supporting perks. The big cherry on top is his Caladbolg (ATK) that scales bravery base damage up to 2x at full health. This applies to all of his attacks that deal bravery damage, including EX Burst. That alone makes it great for closing out matches with a good lead. EX Burst is one of the weakest in the game when Tidus is at low health, but because EX mode adds critical hit rate and depletes the opponent's assist gauge upon activation, this is still good for securing a win.

Muggshotter: /* Tidus Assist Overview */

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Tidus Assist Overview

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	Tidus is one of the established viable assists in competitive play. He is not a universally effective assist in the way that Kuja is, but what he brings to the table is nothing to sneeze at. Tidus' bravery assists provide a combination of easier whiff punishes in terms of frame data and extended ground combos, while his air HP can be used in chase sequences to set up inescapable damage. Ground HP can harass for a good few seconds if the opponent doesn't jump out of the way, but your mileage may vary.		Tidus is one of the established viable assists in competitive play. He is not a universally effective assist in the way that Kuja is, but what he brings to the table is nothing to sneeze at. Tidus' bravery assists provide a combination of easier whiff punishes in terms of frame data and extended ground combos, while his air HP can be used in chase sequences to set up inescapable damage. Ground HP can harass for a good few seconds if the opponent doesn't jump out of the way, but your mileage may vary.

	~~'''~~Sonic Buster~~'''~~ is slow not unlike Kuja's Snatch Blow, but it is one of the two grounded BRV assists in the game that can end with a ground wall rush. That's great news for Jecht, but also anyone else with an elaborate combo game like {{012cec}}, Cloud and {{012squ}}. Its tracking and holding potential is weaker ~~overall though~~ compared to Kuja~~, as Tidus moves the opponent around rapidly~~. ~~Even the~~ first two charges lift on hit and the knockback ~~that occurs~~ from the finishing kick is of good distance and high speed. The lack of tracking isn't a huge issue, but filler hits aren't ~~really possible~~ like with Kuja and Sephiroth assists. Instead, all the additional damage is often back-loaded to the wall rush ~~and that~~ is where the character's combo potential determines the mileage they'll get out of this move. Positioning with dashes and [[Abilities_(Dissidia_012)\|'''Multi Air Slide''']] may be necessary to make the most of it.		=== Sonic Buster ===
			Sonic Buster is slow not unlike Kuja's Snatch Blow, but it is one of the two grounded BRV assists in the game that can end with a ground wall rush. That's great news for Jecht, but also anyone else with an elaborate combo game like {{012cec}}, Cloud and {{012squ}}. Its tracking and holding potential is weaker compared to Kuja though. The first two charges lift on hit and the knockback from the finishing kick is of good distance and high speed. The lack of tracking isn't a huge issue, but filler hits aren't feasible like with Kuja and Sephiroth assists. Instead, all the additional damage is often back-loaded to the wall rush. That is where the character's combo potential determines the mileage they'll get out of this move. Positioning with dashes and [[Abilities_(Dissidia_012)\|'''Multi Air Slide''']] may be necessary to make the most of it.

	~~'''~~Hop Step~~'''~~ is a great move all on ~~it's~~ own and the same is true for the assist. It retains the lightning fast startup which is great for whiff punishes in general. The movement and overall short duration leave ''very'' little time to Assist Change and lock him ~~and it~~ provides [[Assist_(Dissidia_012)#Assist_Chase\|~~'''~~Assist Chase''']] on hit for reliable ~~followups~~. However, the bravery damage is pretty low and the time opponent spends in hit stun is ~~ultimately rather~~ brief. This means that interim hits are not possible during Hop Step either ~~and trading blows with opponent~~'~~s assist (~~both assists ~~landed hits)~~ may ~~lock the player out of a followup~~ or worse, ~~they still get~~ combo'd anyway. Another detail worth mentioning is Hop Step's range - When Tidus performs Hop Step, he does not exert much forward movement during startup, nor is the hitbox large. Kuja, Sephiroth and Jecht assists all exhibit these qualities to some extent which give them an advantage in conversions and whiff punishes. So when it comes to timing Tidus assist, calling him slightly later than usual can make a difference as that lets him spawn closer to the opponent. The reach is still shorter than the aforementioned assists though. At the end of the day, Hop Step is a reliable assist move, though it is not necessarily optimal for a lot of characters.		=== Hop Step ===
			Hop Step is a great move all on its own and the same is true for the assist. It retains the lightning fast startup which is great for whiff punishes in general. The movement and overall short duration leave ''very'' little time to Assist Change and lock him. Hop Step also provides '''[[Assist_(Dissidia_012)#Assist_Chase\|Assist Chase]]''' on hit for reliable follow-ups. However, the bravery damage is pretty low and the time opponent spends in hit stun is brief. This means that interim hits are not possible during Hop Step either. Shorter hit stun also means Tidus assist won't always trade favorably if both players get hit by assists. Follow-ups may not be possible or worse, the player character gets combo'd anyway.

	'~~''Spiral Cut'''~~ is a ~~grounded homing combo attack~~ that ~~ends with Assist Chase~~. ~~Tidus~~ is ~~stuck on~~ the ~~ground~~ the ~~whole time. This~~ is ~~not usually worth the~~ assist ~~gauge~~, ~~but players who are willing to bet on a misjudged reaction or capitalise on~~ a ~~dodge may find success at times~~.		Another detail worth mentioning is Hop Step's range - When Tidus performs Hop Step, he does not exert much forward movement during startup. The hitbox is not large either. Kuja, Sephiroth and Jecht assists all exhibit these qualities to some extent which give them an advantage in conversions and whiff punishes. So when it comes to timing Tidus assist, calling him slightly later than usual can make a difference, as that lets him spawn closer to the opponent. The reach is still shorter than the aforementioned assists though. At the end of the day, Hop Step is a reliable assist move, though it is not necessarily optimal for a lot of characters.

	~~'''Slice & Dice''' is significantly slower to start than~~ Spiral Cut ~~and does not stay on the field nearly as long (on whiff), but it~~ is ~~not entirely without merit either. Slice & Dice has more tracking than Hop Step to help~~ with ~~interruptions and charge has enough reach to catch opponents during~~ Chase. ~~As long as the preceding attack does not have obscenely high knockback, it~~ is ~~possible to initiate Chase, perform an HP attack and have Tidus do~~ the ~~rest if~~ the ~~opponent dodged the first HP~~. On the ~~off chance that both HPs connect and send the opponent flying~~, ~~Slice & Dice homes in~~ on ~~the opponent very aggressively for long distances. And because this ''also'' yields Assist Chase, it pretty much guarantees~~ a ~~followup of some sort~~.		=== Spiral Cut ===
			Spiral Cut is a grounded homing combo attack that ends with Assist Chase. Tidus is stuck on the ground the whole time. This is not usually worth the assist gauge, but players who are willing to bet on a misjudged reaction or capitalise on a dodge may find success at times.

	Tidus assist excels in many important areas, but in terms of damage potential he tends to fall behind in comparison to other competitive assists. He also doesn't have Ranged priority moves, which is a common detriment for assist characters. That being said, Assist Chase is surprisingly rare among air BRV assists, which helps keep Tidus assist afloat in the competition. But this is not always enough~~, his~~ other attacks have to be of some value to the player (character) for him to truly shine.		=== Slice and Dice ===
			Slice and Dice is significantly slower to start than Spiral Cut and does not stay on the field nearly as long (on whiff), but it is not entirely without merit either. Slice & Dice has more tracking than Hop Step to help with interruptions and charge has enough reach to catch opponents during Chase. As long as the preceding attack does not have obscenely high knockback, it is possible to initiate Chase, perform an HP attack and have Tidus do the rest if the opponent dodged the first HP. On the off chance that both HPs connect and send the opponent flying, Slice & Dice homes in on the opponent very aggressively for long distances. And because this ''also'' yields Assist Chase, it pretty much guarantees a followup of some sort.

			=== Conclusion ===
			Tidus assist excels in many important areas, but in terms of damage potential he tends to fall behind in comparison to other competitive assists. He also doesn't have Ranged priority moves, which is a common detriment for assist characters. That being said, Assist Chase is surprisingly rare among air BRV assists, which helps keep Tidus assist afloat in the competition. But this is not always enough. His other attacks have to be of some value to the player (character) for him to truly shine.

	== Assists ==		== Assists ==

Muggshotter: /* Builds */

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Builds

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	\|ast=Aerith		\|ast=Aerith
	\|wpn=World Champion		\|wpn=World Champion
	\|hand=Lufenian Dirk ~~([[CP_Glitch_(Dissidia_012)\|'''CP Glitch''']])~~		\|hand=Lufenian Dirk {{equip}}
	\|head=Lufenian Headband		\|head=Lufenian Headband
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	\|summon=Scarmiglione		\|summon=Scarmiglione
			\|dataBRV=
			{{Build-AttackData
			\|brv1-g=Hop Step
			\|branch-1gbrv=
			\|branch-1ghp=
			\|brv2-g=
			\|branch-2gbrv=
			\|branch-2ghp=
			\|brv3-g=
			\|branch-3gbrv=
			\|branch-3ghp=
			\|brv1-a=Full Slide
			\|branch-1abrv=
			\|branch-1ahp=
			\|brv2-a=Hop Step
			\|branch-2abrv=
			\|branch-2ahp=
			\|brv3-a=Cut & Run (midair)
			\|branch-3abrv=
			\|branch-3ahp=Quick Hit F
			}}
			\| dataHP =
			{{Build-AttackDataHP
			\|hp1-g=
			\|hp2-g=
			\|hp3-g=
			\|hp1-a=Slice & Dice
			\|hp2-a=Energy Rain
			\|hp3-a=Jecht Shot
			}}
	}}		}}

	{\|~~class~~=~~"wikitable" style~~=~~"display: inline~~-~~table; margin-right: 50px;~~		== Basic Abilities ==
	~~! scope="row" colspan~~=~~"2" \| Bravery attacks~~		{{Build-Ability
	\|-		\|action=
	~~! scope~~=~~"col" \|~~ Ground		{{Build-AbilitySet
	~~! scope~~=~~"col"~~ \| Aerial		\|1=Ground Evasion}}
	\|-		{{Build-AbilitySet
	\|-		\|1=Midair Evasion}}
	\|~~rowspan~~=~~"3"~~\|~~Hop Step~~ \|\| ~~Full~~ Slide		{{Build-AbilitySet
	\|-		\|1=Ground Block}}
	\|~~Hop Step~~		{{Build-AbilitySet
	\|-		\|1=Midair Block}}
	\|~~Cut & Run (midair)~~		{{Build-AbilitySet
	\|-		\|1=Aerial Recovery}}
	~~! scope~~=~~"row" colspan="2" \| HP attacks~~		{{Build-AbilitySet
	\|-		\|1=Recovery Attack}}
	~~! scope~~=~~"col" \|~~ Ground		{{Build-AbilitySet
	~~! scope~~=~~"col"~~ \| ~~Aerial~~		\|1=Controlled Recovery}}
	\|-		{{Build-AbilitySet
	\|~~rowspan~~=~~"4"~~\| -- \|\| ~~Slice & Dice~~		\|1=Wall Jump}}
	\|-		{{Build-AbilitySet
	\|~~Energy Rain (midair)~~		\|1=Free Air Dash}}
	\|-		{{Build-AbilitySet
	\|~~Jecht Shot~~		\|1=Reverse Ground Dash}}
	\|-		{{Build-AbilitySet
	\|~~Quick Hit E (from Cut & Run)~~		\|1=Multi Air Slide}}
	\|}		{{Build-AbilitySet
			\|1=Free Air Dash Boost}}
			{{Build-AbilitySet
			\|1=Assist Gauge Up Dash}}
			{{Build-AbilitySet
			\|1=Speed Boost++}}
			{{Build-AbilitySet
			\|1=Jump Boost+}}
			{{Build-AbilitySet
			\|1=Jump Times Boost++}}
			{{Build-AbilitySet
			\|1=Ground Evasion Boost}}
			{{Build-AbilitySet
			\|1=Midair Evasion Boost}}
			{{Build-AbilitySet
			\|1=Evasion Boost}}
			{{Build-AbilitySet
			\|1=Descent Speed Boost}}
			\|support=
			{{Build-AbilitySet
			\|1=Always Target Indicator}}
			{{Build-AbilitySet
			\|1=EX Core Lock On}}
			{{Build-AbilitySet
			\|1=Assist Lock On}}
			\|extra=
			{{Build-AbilitySet
			\|1=Precision Jump}}
			{{Build-AbilitySet
			\|1=Precision Evasion}}
			{{Build-AbilitySet
			\|1=Sneak Attack}}
			{{Build-AbilitySet
			\|1=Disable Counterattack}}
			{{Build-AbilitySet
			\|1=EXP to HP}}
			\|cp=420 / 450
			}}

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	! scope="col" \| Aerial		! scope="col" \| Aerial
	\|-		\|-
	~~\|rowspan="2"~~\|Hop Step \|\| Hop Step		\|Hop Step \|\| Hop Step
	\|-		\|-
	\|Full Slide		\|Full Slide

Muggshotter: Updated character info

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Updated character info

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	\|exclusives=Official Ball, Striker, Grand Slam,<br>World Champion		\|exclusives=Official Ball, Striker, Grand Slam,<br>World Champion
	\|fastestbrv=11F (Hop Step)		\|fastestbrv=11F (Hop Step)
	\|fastesthp=		\|fastesthp=39F (Spiral Cut)
	\|1hithp=No		\|1hithp=No
	\|hplinks=Yes		\|hplinks=Yes
	\|cmdblock=No		\|cmdblock=No
	\|unlock=		\|unlock=
	\|alignment=Chaos (012),<br>Cosmos (013)		\|alignment=Chaos (012),<br>Cosmos ('''[[Glossary_(Dissidia_012)#013\|013]]''')
	\|vajp=Masakazu Morita		\|vajp=Masakazu Morita
	\|vaeng=James Arnold Taylor		\|vaeng=James Arnold Taylor

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Assist

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	Most attacks leave Tidus airborne, which allow him to call Aerith for Seal Evil combos. This includes grounded versions of Hop Step, Stick & Move, Cut & Run, Dart & Weave and Energy Rain.		Most attacks leave Tidus airborne, which allow him to call Aerith for Seal Evil combos. This includes grounded versions of Hop Step, Stick & Move, Cut & Run, Dart & Weave and Energy Rain.

	Cut & Run (midair) > Quick Hit is a common, relatively high power assist combo ender for Tidus. That will be listed in the following combos most of the time. Other enders may be prioritized depending on the situation, such as Jecht Shot to avoid LV2 Assist Change stagger or Slice and Dice to confuse Assist Change retaliation attempts.		Cut & Run (midair) > Quick Hit is a common, relatively high power assist combo ender for Tidus. That will be listed in the following combos most of the time. Any combo with "(behind opponent)" can do more damage if you have Sneak Attack extra ability equipped. Other enders may be prioritized depending on the situation, such as Jecht Shot to avoid LV2 Assist Change stagger or Slice and Dice to confuse Assist Change retaliation attempts.

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	\|rowspan="2"\|Full Slide (2 parts) \|\| -- \|\| 19~25 (2x3~2x6, 5, 8) \|\| 27 \|\| Mid-stage combo starter, also works with Aerith assist after clashing with an attack. The further Tidus is from opponent, the less damage Full Slide will do on hit. \|\| --		\|rowspan="2"\|Full Slide (2 parts) \|\| -- \|\| 19~25 (2x3~2x6, 5, 8) \|\| 27 \|\| Mid-stage combo starter, also works with Aerith assist after clashing with an attack. The further Tidus is from opponent, the less damage Full Slide will do on hit. \|\| --
	\|-		\|-
	\|Aerith > DC > Free Air Dash > Cut & Run > Quick Hit \|\| 54~66 + HP WR (2x3~2x6, 5, 8, 2x2~2x5, 24, 1x4, 3 + HP WR) \|\| 120 (30, 90) \|\| Reliable wall-less combo. If ceiling is closer than wall, you can opt for ~~Jech~~ Shot ender instead for wall rush damage. \|\| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDOs-TVaqYg&t=75 '''Video''']		\|Aerith > DC > Free Air Dash > Cut & Run > Quick Hit \|\| 54~66 + HP WR (2x3~2x6, 5, 8, 2x2~2x5, 24, 1x4, 3 + HP WR) \|\| 120 (30, 90) \|\| Reliable wall-less combo. If ceiling is closer than wall, you can opt for Jecht Shot ender instead for wall rush damage. \|\| [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDOs-TVaqYg&t=75 '''Video''']
	\|-		\|-
	\|rowspan="2"\|Full Slide (Wall Rush) \|\| -- \|\| 40 + WR (2x6, 5, 8, 15) \|\| 30 \|\| -- \|\| --		\|rowspan="2"\|Full Slide (Wall Rush) \|\| -- \|\| 40 + WR (2x6, 5, 8, 15) \|\| 30 \|\| -- \|\| --

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	The startup is slow enough to be reactable and it even has a distinct sound cue. However, this sound effect is shared with Tidus' ''blocking'' state, so adept players can mask it with [[Glossary_(Dissidia_012)#Dash_feint_/_Spot_dash\|'''spot dashes''']] to opponents who rely on audio off-guard. Even so, using this move recklessly in the [https://glossary.infil.net/?t=Neutral '''neutral'''] is not advised and because Tidus commonly fights in the air, there may not be many opportunities to even apply it. The whiff recovery is fairly low though.		The startup is slow enough to be reactable and it even has a distinct sound cue. However, this sound effect is shared with Tidus' ''blocking'' state, so adept players can mask it with [[Glossary_(Dissidia_012)#Dash_feint_/_Spot_dash\|'''spot dashes''']] to opponents who rely on audio off-guard. Even so, using this move recklessly in the [https://glossary.infil.net/?t=Neutral '''neutral'''] is not advised and because Tidus commonly fights in the air, there may not be many opportunities to even apply it. The whiff recovery is fairly low though.

	Sonic Buster's vertical tracking is not stellar, but it can increase exponentially during assist calls. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KowbxKm8-DQ&t=140 Sonic Buster increased tracking during assist </ref>		Sonic Buster's vertical tracking is not stellar, but it can increase exponentially during assist calls. <ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KowbxKm8-DQ&t=140 Sonic Buster increased tracking during assist.]</ref>

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	Sphere Shot does have strengths however. The animation isn't short, but it is not long enough to be reliably assist punishable by Kuja or Aerith assists who are two of the most powerful and commonly used assists in the game. Thanks to the Ranged Mid priority, it performs well against non-high speed HP attacks in a counterpoking exchange and it can disrupt {{012emp}} inside a trap when in reach.		Sphere Shot does have strengths however. The animation isn't short, but it is not long enough to be reliably assist punishable by Kuja or Aerith assists who are two of the most powerful and commonly used assists in the game. Thanks to the Ranged Mid priority, it performs well against non-high speed HP attacks in a counterpoking exchange and it can disrupt {{012emp}} inside a trap when in reach.

	The mid priority also means blocking Sphere Shot causes the opponent to stagger and as such, it is serviceable for calling out blocks or low priority pokes outside of Hop Step range. Tidus actually gets enough [https://glossary.infil.net/?t=Frame%20Advantage '''frame advantage'''] to guarantee a Hop Step with a dodge cancel, but the caveat here is distance; Normally Tidus moves too far from the opponent with a dodge to realistically hit the opponent, but if his back is against the wall, he can land Hop Step reliably. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PApmGwJaK64 Tidus Sphere Shot stagger dodge cancel Hop Step example.</ref> Assists that aren't Aerith can convert staggers into a combo and on hit, wall rush is also available for followups if close enough.		The mid priority also means blocking Sphere Shot causes the opponent to stagger and as such, it is serviceable for calling out blocks or low priority pokes outside of Hop Step range. Tidus actually gets enough [https://glossary.infil.net/?t=Frame%20Advantage '''frame advantage'''] to guarantee a Hop Step with a dodge cancel, but the caveat here is distance; Normally Tidus moves too far from the opponent with a dodge to realistically hit the opponent, but if his back is against the wall, he can land Hop Step reliably. <ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PApmGwJaK64 Tidus Sphere Shot stagger dodge cancel Hop Step example.]</ref> Assists that aren't Aerith can convert staggers into a combo and on hit, wall rush is also available for followups if close enough.

	Sphere Shot can do a maximum amount of 8 hits for 32 base damage which is not bad and it scales with physical damage that is already a good investment for Tidus. But getting all hits is only possible at point-blank range, much like Sonic Buster. If done at the same when the opponent blocks, this move will hit after the active guard frames have passed and it can put a dent in their bravery. If done at max range, the amount of hits can be reduced to as low as 2 which naturally decreases Sphere Shot's overall damage output.		Sphere Shot can do a maximum amount of 8 hits for 32 base damage which is not bad and it scales with physical damage that is already a good investment for Tidus. But getting all hits is only possible at point-blank range, much like Sonic Buster. If done at the same when the opponent blocks, this move will hit after the active guard frames have passed and it can put a dent in their bravery. If done at max range, the amount of hits can be reduced to as low as 2 which naturally decreases Sphere Shot's overall damage output.
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	Stick & Move is something of a matchup specific attack, but it can be quite strong. Turning around the opponent can be effective, since there are a lot of attacks in the game that hit in a straight line from the front, including HP attacks. Tidus doesn't create much distance between the opponent and tries to maintain a fixed distance if possible even when they approach him. The relatively long lateral range of the sword can work against neutral dodges, upward dodges from beneath Tidus (the elevation is matched) and side dodges if Tidus moves in the correct direction.		Stick & Move is something of a matchup specific attack, but it can be quite strong. Turning around the opponent can be effective, since there are a lot of attacks in the game that hit in a straight line from the front, including HP attacks. Tidus doesn't create much distance between the opponent and tries to maintain a fixed distance if possible even when they approach him. The relatively long lateral range of the sword can work against neutral dodges, upward dodges from beneath Tidus (the elevation is matched) and side dodges if Tidus moves in the correct direction.

	The long startup and recovery make it susceptible to blocks and [[Glossary_(Dissidia_012)#Assist_punish\|'''Assist punishes''']]. Because the sword is not considered a separate projectile, Stick & Move can also poke through solid objects like walls and stage props. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7pLWp2p6D8 Stick & Move disjoint through wall.</ref> This does mean that Tidus can be staggered by mid priority attacks and regular blocks in places where this move can make contact, but the severity of a punish can vary depending on position.		The long startup and recovery make it susceptible to blocks and [[Glossary_(Dissidia_012)#Assist_punish\|'''Assist punishes''']]. Because the sword is not considered a separate projectile, Stick & Move can also poke through solid objects like walls and stage props. <ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7pLWp2p6D8 Stick & Move disjoint through wall.]</ref> This does mean that Tidus can be staggered by mid priority attacks and regular blocks in places where this move can make contact, but the severity of a punish can vary depending on position.

	Stick & Move's dodge cancel window on hit is quite late into the animation. However, the sword is capable of damaging the opponent even when it returns back to Tidus which provides just enough time to dodge cancel and combo into Hop Step. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDOs-TVaqYg&t=18 Stick & Move return hit combo.</ref> This can be difficult to replicate against another human opponent, but it is worth noting as a solo dodge cancel combo starter regardless; It still generates additional meter and combos into commonly used assists.		Stick & Move's dodge cancel window on hit is quite late into the animation. However, the sword is capable of damaging the opponent even when it returns back to Tidus which provides just enough time to dodge cancel and combo into Hop Step. <ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDOs-TVaqYg&t=18 Stick & Move return hit combo.]</ref> This can be difficult to replicate against another human opponent, but it is worth noting as a solo dodge cancel combo starter regardless; It still generates additional meter and combos into commonly used assists.

	Similiar to Full Slide, Stick & Move's vertical tracking is heavily influenced by assist calls. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KowbxKm8-DQ&t=101 Stick & Move vertical tracking during assist call.</ref> Stick & Move's increased tracking during assist call. That improves the attack's utility as a mid range whiff punisher against long recovery moves.		Similiar to Full Slide, Stick & Move's vertical tracking is heavily influenced by assist calls. <ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KowbxKm8-DQ&t=101 Stick & Move vertical tracking during assist call.]</ref> Stick & Move's increased tracking during assist call. That improves the attack's utility as a mid range whiff punisher against long recovery moves.

	Overall, Stick & Move has a lot going for it even if it is not a one-size-fits-all dodge attack. Using it on the ground can be a good way to defend against {{012fc}}'s Via Dolorosa HP or {{012squ}}'s Blasting Zone, but be wary of the opponent's assist. The base damage can vary slightly depending on when it hits, but the damage output is not particularly high either way.		Overall, Stick & Move has a lot going for it even if it is not a one-size-fits-all dodge attack. Using it on the ground can be a good way to defend against {{012fc}}'s Via Dolorosa HP or {{012squ}}'s Blasting Zone, but be wary of the opponent's assist. The base damage can vary slightly depending on when it hits, but the damage output is not particularly high either way.
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	Cut & Run has the highest base damage out of all dodge braveries, along with shortest whiff recovery and the backwards evasion is fast enough to avoid a lot of moves with a bit of forward tracking. On hit, Tidus can link the Quick Hit HP or go for a difficult dodge cancel followup with Hop Step for extra bravery damage and meter. The combos are perhaps a bit more situational than Dart & Weave's in this way, but they can provide slightly more damage. As far as three-slot bravery dilemmas go, the aerial Cut & Run version has an edge due to an increased base damage multiplier.		Cut & Run has the highest base damage out of all dodge braveries, along with shortest whiff recovery and the backwards evasion is fast enough to avoid a lot of moves with a bit of forward tracking. On hit, Tidus can link the Quick Hit HP or go for a difficult dodge cancel followup with Hop Step for extra bravery damage and meter. The combos are perhaps a bit more situational than Dart & Weave's in this way, but they can provide slightly more damage. As far as three-slot bravery dilemmas go, the aerial Cut & Run version has an edge due to an increased base damage multiplier.

	In a sense, Cut & Run shares many traits with Dart & Weave. Both have the same startup, allow dodge cancel combos and avoid attacks with below average tracking. Both also lose to low recovery pokes due to long startup. It is worth noting that Cut & Run becomes active after the initial retreat, which technically makes it slower to hit in practice. That makes it more vulnerable to blocks, moreso than his other dodge attacks. It does not cross up or go through walls. But the high speed movement allows Tidus to go through certain projectiles that have very brief gaps in active hitboxes, such as Warrior of Light's Shining Wave HP. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDI-tsnyJbM Cut & Run goes through projectiles</ref>		In a sense, Cut & Run shares many traits with Dart & Weave. Both have the same startup, allow dodge cancel combos and avoid attacks with below average tracking. Both also lose to low recovery pokes due to long startup. It is worth noting that Cut & Run becomes active after the initial retreat, which technically makes it slower to hit in practice. That makes it more vulnerable to blocks, moreso than his other dodge attacks. It does not cross up or go through walls. But the high speed movement allows Tidus to go through certain projectiles that have very brief gaps in active hitboxes, such as Warrior of Light's Shining Wave HP. <ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDI-tsnyJbM Cut & Run goes through projectiles.]</ref>
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	Full Slide can be likened to an aerial variant of Sonic Buster. A 25-frame forward charge with two hit confirmable followup strikes, variable damage output and wall rush potential. Unlike Sonic Buster, Full Slide does not have a block sound effect telegraphing its impact, but it still benefits from the assist call tracking <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KowbxKm8-DQ Full Slide increased tracking during assist </ref>.		Full Slide can be likened to an aerial variant of Sonic Buster. A 25-frame forward charge with two hit confirmable followup strikes, variable damage output and wall rush potential. Unlike Sonic Buster, Full Slide does not have a block sound effect telegraphing its impact, but it still benefits from the assist call tracking <ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KowbxKm8-DQ Full Slide increased tracking during assist.]</ref>.

	Because Full Slide is an aerial move, Tidus will inherently have more opportunities to use it. The vertical tracking is not strong, but assist can be used to enhance it and scoop aerial dodges or clash with Melee Low priority attacks as part of dodge punishment. Similiar to Sonic Buster, the hit stun and lax input windows for the followup attacks also allow assist combos even without walls.		Because Full Slide is an aerial move, Tidus will inherently have more opportunities to use it. The vertical tracking is not strong, but assist can be used to enhance it and scoop aerial dodges or clash with Melee Low priority attacks as part of dodge punishment. Similiar to Sonic Buster, the hit stun and lax input windows for the followup attacks also allow assist combos even without walls.

	This is a good move to have as a secondary tool for punishment and occasional mixups. When [[Lock_Off\|~~'''~~locked off''']], Tidus can move in any direction the analog stick / d-pad allows which further complements it as a defensive meter building tool as well.		This is a good move to have as a secondary tool for punishment and occasional mixups. When '''[[Lock_Off\|locked off]]''', Tidus can move in any direction the analog stick / d-pad allows which further complements it as a defensive meter building tool as well.

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	A low priority blitzball throw. Wither Shot is something of an inverse to Sphere Shot. Low priority, single hit and stronger vertical tracking. It does not wall rush, but it ''is'' possible to combo into Kuja assist on hit <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlkZGuX0J90 Wither Shot into Kuja assist</ref>. Theoretically there is enough hit stun for a solo combo, but this is usually not possible due to late cancel windows and positioning issues caused by knockback.		A low priority blitzball throw. Wither Shot is something of an inverse to Sphere Shot. Low priority, single hit and stronger vertical tracking. It does not wall rush, but it ''is'' possible to combo into Kuja assist on hit <ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlkZGuX0J90 Wither Shot into Kuja assist.]</ref>. Theoretically there is enough hit stun for a solo combo, but this is usually not possible due to late cancel windows and positioning issues caused by knockback.

	Generally speaking there isn't much going on with this move. While the ball's travel speed is decent, the startup does it no favors. And the low base damage and EX output reduce Wither Shot's overall threat even if hits. And just like with Sphere Shot, Tidus is stationary for the duration of this move. All these factors make it difficult to justify equipping Wither Shot over his dodge attacks that help him stay safe and land more damage in the process.		Generally speaking there isn't much going on with this move. While the ball's travel speed is decent, the startup does it no favors. And the low base damage and EX output reduce Wither Shot's overall threat even if hits. And just like with Sphere Shot, Tidus is stationary for the duration of this move. All these factors make it difficult to justify equipping Wither Shot over his dodge attacks that help him stay safe and land more damage in the process.