Jecht (Dissidia 012)/Combos - Revision history

Muggshotter: /* Combo Timing */ Removed collapsible elements.

2024-09-19T11:15:34Z

Combo Timing: Removed collapsible elements.

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	Each combo timing has a minimum of three frames for a successful input. The following documentation is based off of Eddienput script timing at 30 frames per second. The "W" stands for waiting until taking the next action in a script. For example, "W10" refers to waiting for 10 frames before the next input.		Each combo timing has a minimum of three frames for a successful input. The following documentation is based off of Eddienput script timing at 30 frames per second. The "W" stands for waiting until taking the next action in a script. For example, "W10" refers to waiting for 10 frames before the next input.

	~~<div class~~=~~"toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed overflow:auto;">~~		=== Jecht Rush ===
	~~<div style~~=~~"font-weight:bold;line-height:1.6;">~~Jecht Rush~~</div>~~
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	*Rush to Neutral / Up 2: W10, W11 and W12 ('''3-frame''' window)		*Rush to Neutral / Up 2: W10, W11 and W12 ('''3-frame''' window)
	*Rush Neutral 2 to Neutral 3 / Up 3: W18, W19, W20 ('''3-frame''' window)		*Rush Neutral 2 to Neutral 3 / Up 3: W18, W19, W20 ('''3-frame''' window)
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	~~<div class~~=~~"toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed overflow:auto;">~~		=== Jecht Stream ===
	~~<div style~~=~~"font-weight:bold;line-height:1.6;">~~Jecht Stream~~</div>~~
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	*Stream to Neutral 2: W20, W21 and W22 ('''3-frame''' window)		*Stream to Neutral 2: W20, W21 and W22 ('''3-frame''' window)
	*Stream Neutral 2 to Neutral 3 / Down 3: W26, W27 and W28 ('''3-frame''' window)		*Stream Neutral 2 to Neutral 3 / Down 3: W26, W27 and W28 ('''3-frame''' window)
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	*Stream Neutral 3 to HP: W20, W21, W22, W23 ('''4-frame''' window)		*Stream Neutral 3 to HP: W20, W21, W22, W23 ('''4-frame''' window)
	*Stream Neutral 3 to LV2 Blade: '''5-frame''' window if done on earliest timing		*Stream Neutral 3 to LV2 Blade: '''5-frame''' window if done on earliest timing
	~~</div></div></div>~~

	If you time an HP early enough, you can charge it to a slightly stronger level 2 version for additional bravery damage. This timing can be difficult to pinpoint and is only recommended once you have plenty of experience with the character. Increased amount of bravery hits, subtly enhanced particle and sound effects will signal success on hit.		If you time an HP early enough, you can charge it to a slightly stronger level 2 version for additional bravery damage. This timing can be difficult to pinpoint and is only recommended once you have plenty of experience with the character. Increased amount of bravery hits, subtly enhanced particle and sound effects will signal success on hit.

Muggshotter: Added combos category

2024-08-10T10:33:14Z

Added combos category

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	[[Category:Dissidia 012 Final Fantasy]]		[[Category:Combos (Dissidia 012)]] [[Category:Dissidia 012 Final Fantasy]]

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Muggshotter: Changed character navigation template.

2024-08-09T17:29:56Z

Changed character navigation template.

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	= Overview =		= Overview =

Muggshotter: /* Combos (Solo) */

2024-08-08T15:27:48Z

Combos (Solo)

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	Jecht's "failed" Up 3 has enough hit stun to dodge cancel and connect an uncharged Jecht Stream. To make the combo less prone to failure, hold X during Up 3 and mash R. If you do Jecht Rush > Up 2, this same technique applies to that as well.		Jecht's "failed" Up 3 has enough hit stun to dodge cancel and connect an uncharged Jecht Stream. To make the combo less prone to failure, hold X during Up 3 and mash R. If you do Jecht Rush > Up 2, this same technique applies to that as well.

	=== Which combo should a new player learn first? ===		== Which combo should a new player learn first? ==
	Jecht Stream into Triumphant Grasp. That is,		Jecht Stream into Triumphant Grasp. That is,
	Jecht Stream > bravery > down + bravery > HP.		Jecht Stream > bravery > down + bravery > HP.
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	Once you are comfortable with the timing, you can begin adding other combos into your repertoire, including ones off of Jecht Rush. When learning Jecht you are not racing a sprint, but a marathon, so do not worry about dropping combos. It can happen to the experienced players as well.		Once you are comfortable with the timing, you can begin adding other combos into your repertoire, including ones off of Jecht Rush. When learning Jecht you are not racing a sprint, but a marathon, so do not worry about dropping combos. It can happen to the experienced players as well.

	=== Combo Timing ===		== Combo Timing ==
	Each combo timing has a minimum of three frames for a successful input. The following documentation is based off of Eddienput script timing at 30 frames per second. The "W" stands for waiting until taking the next action in a script. For example, "W10" refers to waiting for 10 frames before the next input.		Each combo timing has a minimum of three frames for a successful input. The following documentation is based off of Eddienput script timing at 30 frames per second. The "W" stands for waiting until taking the next action in a script. For example, "W10" refers to waiting for 10 frames before the next input.

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	If you time an HP early enough, you can charge it to a slightly stronger level 2 version for additional bravery damage. This timing can be difficult to pinpoint and is only recommended once you have plenty of experience with the character. Increased amount of bravery hits, subtly enhanced particle and sound effects will signal success on hit.		If you time an HP early enough, you can charge it to a slightly stronger level 2 version for additional bravery damage. This timing can be difficult to pinpoint and is only recommended once you have plenty of experience with the character. Increased amount of bravery hits, subtly enhanced particle and sound effects will signal success on hit.

	=== Choosing the HP combo finisher ===		== Choosing the HP combo finisher ==
	Jecht can freely choose which HP attack to end a combo chain with.		Jecht can freely choose which HP attack to end a combo chain with.

Muggshotter: /* Combos (Solo) */

2024-08-08T15:27:23Z

Combos (Solo)

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	When the subsequent bravery attacks have been timed correctly, Jecht will end the combo chain with a wall rush finisher. These combo chains will be referred to with a direction and a number, with "2" being middle of the chain (2nd chain) and "3" being the last part of the chain (3rd chain).		When the subsequent bravery attacks have been timed correctly, Jecht will end the combo chain with a wall rush finisher. These combo chains will be referred to with a direction and a number, with "2" being middle of the chain (2nd chain) and "3" being the last part of the chain (3rd chain).

	== Combos (Solo) ==		= Combos (Solo) =

	[[File:012-jecht-branch-a.png]]		[[File:012-jecht-branch-a.png]]

Muggshotter: /* Jecht Rush – Neutral 2 – Neutral 3 – HP (Jecht Blade / Jecht Beam) */

2024-08-08T15:26:02Z

Jecht Rush – Neutral 2 – Neutral 3 – HP (Jecht Blade / Jecht Beam)

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	Straight forward combo, literally. The two neutral followups provide good [https://glossary.infil.net/?t=Corner%20Carry '''wall carry''']. It is not the strongest combo, but it does combo into Jecht Beam or Jecht Blade which still have potential depending on the situation.		Straight forward combo, literally. The two neutral followups provide good [https://glossary.infil.net/?t=Corner%20Carry '''wall carry''']. It is not the strongest combo, but it does combo into Jecht Beam or Jecht Blade which still have potential depending on the situation.

	Jecht Blade adds a ''lot'' of wall rush potential with the forward movement and knockback. Regardless of where Jecht Beam is performed, it will hit twice in the combo, resulting in double the meter depletion, EX Force generation and assist meter with Side by Side {{accsp}} equipped. At a wall or corner Jecht Beam provides an assist combo thanks to reduced pushback.		Neutral 3 chain will put Jecht in an airborne state, which lets him move forward if he's at a ledge. Jecht Blade adds a ''lot'' of wall rush potential with the forward movement and knockback. Regardless of where Jecht Beam is performed, it will hit twice in the combo, resulting in double the meter depletion, EX Force generation and assist meter with Side by Side {{accsp}} equipped. At a wall or corner Jecht Beam provides an assist combo thanks to reduced pushback.

	Failing the Neutral 3 chain can be converted into an assist if you call it right before Jecht halts his forward momentum and starts spinning. Kuja and Sephiroth assist have lenient timing on that, but other assists can work too, such as Aerith.		Failing the Neutral 3 chain can be converted into an assist if you call it right before Jecht halts his forward momentum and starts spinning. Kuja and Sephiroth assist have lenient timing on that, but other assists can work too, such as Aerith.

Muggshotter: /* Overview */ Reworded how to input chains.

2024-07-13T00:20:03Z

Overview: Reworded how to input chains.

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	[[Jecht (Dissidia 012)\|'''Jecht''']] operates with a distinct combo system that allows him to chain into HP attacks by himself. This is different from HP links - HP attacks are not dedicated follow-ups that are equipped on top of bravery attacks. Rather, they are independent HP attacks that can be cancelled into at the end of a combo from ''Jecht Rush'' or ''Jecht Stream''.		[[Jecht (Dissidia 012)\|'''Jecht''']] operates with a distinct combo system that allows him to chain into HP attacks by himself. This is different from HP links - HP attacks are not dedicated follow-ups that are equipped on top of bravery attacks. Rather, they are independent HP attacks that can be cancelled into at the end of a combo from ''Jecht Rush'' or ''Jecht Stream''.

	Each full bravery combo chain is comprised of three combo sequences and an optional HP attack at the end, starting with Jecht Rush or Jecht Stream. ~~''Every'' follow-up requires a bravery /~~ HP ~~attack~~ input within a specific 3-frame window. If a single bravery input is mistimed, Jecht will repeat the previous attack and chaining into an HP attack will no longer be possible for that combo.		Each full bravery combo chain is comprised of three combo sequences and an optional HP attack at the end, starting with Jecht Rush or Jecht Stream. Each chain and HP finisher require an input within a specific 3-frame window. The following two chains require inputting bravery and the HP at the end requires inputting the appropriate HP attack. The button timing is crucial - If a single bravery input is mistimed, Jecht will repeat the previous attack and chaining into an HP attack will ''no longer be possible'' for that combo.

	When the subsequent bravery attacks have been timed correctly, Jecht will end the combo chain with a wall rush finisher. These combo chains will be referred to with a direction and a number, with "2" being middle of the chain (2nd chain) and "3" being the last part of the chain (3rd chain).		When the subsequent bravery attacks have been timed correctly, Jecht will end the combo chain with a wall rush finisher. These combo chains will be referred to with a direction and a number, with "2" being middle of the chain (2nd chain) and "3" being the last part of the chain (3rd chain).

Muggshotter at 18:53, 21 May 2024

2024-05-21T18:53:04Z

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Muggshotter at 09:47, 14 May 2024

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Muggshotter at 09:46, 14 May 2024

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