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Muggshotter: /* Sephiroth */ Adjusted info on shield bash vs hell's gate, recovery attack and offense. Added a bit on octaslash.

2026-02-23T11:04:09Z

Sephiroth: Adjusted info on shield bash vs hell's gate, recovery attack and offense. Added a bit on octaslash.

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	:Let's start with the Shield Bash counter. Normally Sephiroth pressures with Shadow Flare, but the long range Shield Bash counter has strong {{keyword\|tracking\|tracking=1}} and three projectiles that are difficult to avoid sequentially. This slows down Sephiroth considerably and lets Firion dictate the pace. When using Shield Bash against Shadow Flare, make sure to block the projectile that's in front of Firion. The projectiles coming from other sides can bypass Shield Bash.		:Let's start with the Shield Bash counter. Normally Sephiroth pressures with Shadow Flare, but the long range Shield Bash counter has strong {{keyword\|tracking\|tracking=1}} and three projectiles that are difficult to avoid sequentially. This slows down Sephiroth considerably and lets Firion dictate the pace. When using Shield Bash against Shadow Flare, make sure to block the projectile that's in front of Firion. The projectiles coming from other sides can bypass Shield Bash.

	:~~One of the most consistent ways~~ Sephiroth can bypass the Shield Bash counter is by using Shadow Flare and ~~then~~ coming down with Hell's Gate. ~~He can only do~~ this ~~if he~~ is high enough ~~in the air, so pay attention to where he is when~~ Shadow Flare ~~comes out~~.		:Sephiroth can bypass the Shield Bash counter by using Shadow Flare and coming down with Hell's Gate. It beats all the projectiles with Melee High priority. Pay attention to Sephiroth's positioning before doing this; If Sephiroth is high enough (Shadow Flare's max range) or if Shadow Flare is blocked late (after projectiles intersect), Shield Bash counter can lose. Other positions are more favorable for Firion. If Sephiroth is close to Firion, or not vertically positioned, don't be afraid to use Shield Bash!

	:Sephiroth can also use Hell's Gate from above as a pre-emptive attack to power through some of Firion's attacks. Rope Knife, Straightarrow and even Reel Axe can lose to this move if they're done after Sephiroth has started Hell's Gate. Mix up your attack timing and move around with (Omni) Ground Dash to stay safe. If Sephiroth stops Hell's Gate early, Firion can attempt a Straightarrow {{keyword\|mixup\|mixup=1}} against Sephiroth's next air dodge. If Sephiroth comes down to the ground, Rope Knife can {{keyword\|whiff punish\|whiffpunish=1}} it.		:Sephiroth can also use Hell's Gate from above as a pre-emptive attack to power through some of Firion's attacks. Rope Knife, Straightarrow and even Reel Axe can lose to this move if they're done after Sephiroth has started Hell's Gate. Mix up your attack timing and move around with (Omni) Ground Dash to stay safe. If Sephiroth stops Hell's Gate early, Firion can attempt a Straightarrow {{keyword\|mixup\|mixup=1}} against Sephiroth's next air dodge. If Sephiroth comes down to the ground, Rope Knife can {{keyword\|whiff punish\|whiffpunish=1}} it.
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	;Defense		;Defense
	:~~Sephiroth will eventually try to do something in close-range to open up~~ Firion~~. Expect Sudden Cruelty and Oblivion, they are Sephiroth~~'s ~~key moves in the air. Blocking works~~, ~~but Firion can also do neutral dodge (backstep) and use~~ Shield Bash ~~as cover against the bravery attacks~~. ~~Sudden Cruelty has enough reach to activate~~ Shield Bash~~'s close range~~ counter, ~~which~~ can ~~miss. Make sure Sephiroth is close to Firion when using Shield Bash. Ground Dash is also useful~~ for ~~getting away from walls when below Sephiroth, and it fills assist gauge as well~~.		:In short, Firion's defense is a mixture of dodging, Shield Bash and moving with Ground Dash to position for Rope Knife, Lord of Arms or Straightarrow. The threat of long-range Shield Bash counter is still relevant, but if Firion gets hit, things can get much harder for him.

	:If Firion ~~gets hit by Hell~~'s ~~Gate~~, do ~~not focus on retaliating with Magic Arts: Bolt~~. Sephiroth ~~can dodge towards~~ Firion, ~~hit him with Sudden Cruelty~~ and ~~get '''[[Assist_(Dissidia_012)#Assist_Charge\|Assist Charge]]''' from~~ it.		:Sephiroth will eventually try to do something in close-range to open up Firion. Expect Sudden Cruelty and Oblivion, they are Sephiroth's key moves in the air. Blocking works, but Firion can also do neutral dodge (backstep) and use Shield Bash as cover against the bravery attacks. Sudden Cruelty has enough reach to activate Shield Bash's close range counter, which can miss. Make sure Sephiroth is close to Firion when using Shield Bash. Watch out for Octaslash, as it has enough reach to catch ground dodges in any direction. Ground Dash is also useful for getting away from walls when below Sephiroth, and it fills assist gauge as well.

	:If Firion gets hit by Sudden Cruelty, prioritize getting to the ground as soon as possible. Here, Sephiroth can do {{keyword\|empty Chase\|emptychase=1}} and get all EX for little risk. Similar to Garland's Twist Drill chase scenario, the pushback is too much for Firion to retaliate consistently. If Firion tries to use Recovery Attack with Swordslash, Straightarrow or Weaponsmaster, Sephiroth can hit him with another Sudden Cruelty and Chase again. The one exception to this is Magic Arts: Frost, which requires a swift input with Recovery Attack ability enabled. And even when it works, it does little damage and barely pushes Sephiroth back at all. It's better than nothing, but may not be easy to justify for all Firion players.		:If Firion gets hit by Hell's Gate, do not focus on retaliating with Magic Arts: Bolt. Sephiroth can dodge towards Firion, hit him with Sudden Cruelty and get '''[[Assist_(Dissidia_012)#Assist_Charge\|Assist Charge]]''' from it. Air recover instead and move away from him.

			:If Firion gets hit by Sudden Cruelty, prioritize getting to the ground as soon as possible. Here, Sephiroth can do {{keyword\|empty Chase\|emptychase=1}} and get all EX for little risk. Similar to Garland's Twist Drill chase scenario, the pushback is too much for Firion to retaliate consistently. If Firion tries to use Recovery Attack with Swordslash (too short), Straightarrow or Weaponsmaster, Sephiroth can hit him with another Sudden Cruelty and Chase again. The one exception to this is Magic Arts: Frost, which requires a swift input with Recovery Attack ability enabled. And even when it works, it does little damage and barely pushes Sephiroth back at all. It's better than nothing, but may not be easy to justify for all Firion players. If you choose to do Recovery Attack, be careful about dodging as Sephiroth has HP attacks to call them out.

	;Offense		;Offense
	:Firion's offense revolves more around punishing dodges and applying what little pressure he can in the air. Use Rope Knife to hit Sephiroth after he dodges, but watch out for Scintilla. If used at max range, Rope Knife can actually make Scintilla miss. If Firion is confident Scintilla comes out, Lord of Arms is a great option for crushing Scintilla's block property.		:Firion's offense revolves more around punishing dodges and applying what little pressure he can in the air. Use Rope Knife to hit Sephiroth after he dodges, but watch out for Scintilla if he is close. If used at max range, Rope Knife can actually make Scintilla miss. If Firion is confident Scintilla comes out, Lord of Arms is a great option for crushing Scintilla's block property.

	:As mentioned in the neutral section, Firion has few options against Sephiroth's Shadow Flare {{keyword\|halo camping\|halocamp=1}}. '''[[Multiplayer_Build_Guide_(Dissidia_012)#Bravery_Boost_on_Dodge\|Bravery Boost on Dodge build]]''' can discourage Shadow Flare abuse to an extent in large stages. It's not exactly an offensive solution, though.		:As mentioned in the neutral section, Firion has few options against Sephiroth's Shadow Flare {{keyword\|halo camping\|halocamp=1}}. '''[[Multiplayer_Build_Guide_(Dissidia_012)#Bravery_Boost_on_Dodge\|Bravery Boost on Dodge build]]''' can discourage Shadow Flare abuse to an extent in large stages. It's not exactly an offensive solution, though.

	:The most prominent option is to Free Air Dash and get within Straightarrow's range. This lets Firion snipe poorly timed air dodges, but it should be used sparingly so Sephiroth doesn't get comfortable with Firion's attack patterns. Another option is being brave and using Free Air Dash to fight with Swordslash. This is far more dangerous and doesn't yield as much reward even if Firion succeeds. It doesn't guarantee wall rush assist combos, and the damage is not usually outstanding.		:The most prominent option is to Free Air Dash and get within Straightarrow's range. This lets Firion snipe poorly timed air dodges, but it should be used sparingly so Sephiroth doesn't get comfortable with Firion's attack patterns. Using Straightarrow opens up Firion to Shadow Flares, which doesn't benefit him. Another option is being brave and using Free Air Dash to fight with Swordslash. This is far more dangerous and doesn't yield as much reward even if Firion succeeds. It doesn't guarantee wall rush assist combos, and the damage is not usually outstanding. Patience is paramount to success regardless of Firion's build.

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Muggshotter: /* Onion Knight */ Revised info based on feedback.

2026-02-19T13:31:38Z

Onion Knight: Revised info based on feedback.

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Muggshotter: /* The Emperor */ Added a bit of info on magic arts bolt. Changed favorability to slightly firion favor

2026-02-19T11:14:13Z

The Emperor: Added a bit of info on magic arts bolt. Changed favorability to slightly firion favor

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	;Neutral		;Neutral
	:Firion's neutral and offense are somewhat intertwined. The Emperor's goal is to create traps to protect himself while he casts Starfall. ~~Expect~~ to see Thunder Crest and Dreary Cell a lot. Stay out of their range, then use Rope Knife and Reel Axe to poke through them. Reel Axe and Straightarrow can force The Emperor to dodge. Once again Straightarrow's aiming and delayed shots form a backbone of Firion's strategy. If The Emperor dodges early, hold and release Straightarrow after he has dodged. If The Emperor has assist gauge, be careful he doesn't call assist and '''[[Bravery_(Dissidia_012)#Bravery_Break\|Bravery Break]]''' you in exchange for HP damage.		:Firion's neutral and offense are somewhat intertwined. The Emperor's goal is to create traps to protect himself while he casts Starfall. Magic Arts: Bolt is good for slowing down The Emperor while he's laying down the traps. It's less rewarding in the air, but near the ground the Wall Rush can combo into assists. This is difficult for The Emperor to stop without assist or brief Starfall blocks, so use Magic Arts: Bolt early to establish that setting up traps is not a free action.

			:Even so, expect to see Thunder Crest and Dreary Cell a lot, though. Stay out of their range, then use Rope Knife and Reel Axe to poke through them. Reel Axe and Straightarrow can force The Emperor to dodge. Once again Straightarrow's aiming and delayed shots form a backbone of Firion's strategy. If The Emperor dodges early, hold and release Straightarrow after he has dodged. If The Emperor has assist gauge, be careful he doesn't call assist and '''[[Bravery_(Dissidia_012)#Bravery_Break\|Bravery Break]]''' you in exchange for HP damage.

	:If Firion is not engaging with The Emperor, try to fill assist gauge with Swordslash {{keyword\|whiffs\|whiff=1}} and Ground Dash / Free Air Dash with Assist Gauge Up Dash ability equipped. Having assist gauge makes it safer to prevent Starfall from activating. If Firion gets hit by Thunder Crest (e.g. after assist), do not use LV2 Assist Change to escape, as the assist gets locked anyway.		:If Firion is not engaging with The Emperor, try to fill assist gauge with Swordslash {{keyword\|whiffs\|whiff=1}} and Ground Dash / Free Air Dash with Assist Gauge Up Dash ability equipped. Having assist gauge makes it safer to prevent Starfall from activating. If Firion gets hit by Thunder Crest (e.g. after assist), do not use LV2 Assist Change to escape, as the assist gets locked anyway.

Muggshotter: /* Onion Knight */ Reworked info.

2026-02-18T19:27:12Z

Onion Knight: Reworked info.

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 |build=[[Multiplayer_Build_Guide_(Dissidia_012)#Side_by_Side|Side by Side + High Base BRV]]
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-Onion Knight is an agile character with fast melee braveries, but much slower projectile moves. Firion can Shield Bash the projectiles (Blizzard, Thunder) on reaction and the long-range counter will do the rest. Onion Knight will want to avoid this until he has assist gauge, so Firion should not rely on this strategy for damage. A fast ground HP assist (e.g. {{012kuja}}) can power through Shield Bash and its counters, so playing {{keyword|neutral|neutral=1}} can become harder if Onion Knight has assist available.
+Intro
-Pressuring Onion Knight can be tricky, largely due to his mobility. He can evade Straightarrows by just moving sideways. Firion's dodge punishment in the air is also quite limited due to his air moveset, and the fact that Onion Knight falls fast after an air dodge. Even so, it is important to at least represent some pressure early to set the tone for the match. Jump high enough to use Straightarrow and Magic Arts, but stay close to ground if possible. Onion Knight may use Strength Booster / Magic Booster to delay assist gauge decay, but he can act quickly afterwards. This is not necessarily a consistent source of damage either, but it's a good idea to see if the Onion Knight player has any tendencies with using Booster move(s).
+;{{keyword|Neutral|neutral=1}}
-Eventually Onion Knight has to approach, whether he is camping for EX cores or not. That's when Firion will get a chance to make his biggest plays. Onion Knight's Multi-Hit and Turbo-Hit are his staples for close-range combat and HP damage. But they also leave him briefly vulnerable at the end of {{keyword|recovery|recovery=1}}. Their range is short, so being able to outspace Onion Knight with a ground dash (e.g. Omni Ground Dash) can lead to big reward with a Rope Knife {{keyword|whiff punish|whiffpunish=1}}. Onion Knight's mixups involve delayed attack timing (air jumps) and possibly {{keyword|raw|raw=1}} HP attacks. Most of them have enough speed and lateral reach to catch Firion blocking. Dodging can also backfire on Firion if he is too far to interrupt Onion Knight's HP after a dodge. However, if Onion Knight is trying to dodge punish Firion on the ground with Free Air Dash > melee BRV, Shield Bash is still a good option.
+:'''Close-range'''
-Overall, Firion may struggle to have presence at a distance in this matchup. This is especially true in the air. Therefore it is recommended to play this matchup in a small stage with low ceiling, such as Pandaemonium or M. S. Prima Vista. Onion Knight is another Side by Side user, so momentum can swing greatly in both directions at the tip of a hat.
+:Onion Knight's mixups involve delayed attack timing (air jumps) and possibly {{keyword|raw|raw=1}} HP attacks. Most of them have enough speed and lateral reach to catch Firion blocking, so be careful.
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Muggshotter: /* The Emperor */

2026-02-16T19:40:28Z

The Emperor

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	:If The Emperor creates distance, it is important to not leave him alone. Pursue him with Free Air Dash. If The Emperor has not set up any traps (Flare, Dreary Cell), Firion can afford to move closer to The Emperor and attempt to use Swordslash. The Emperor may use Dreary Cell to stop Firion from doing this, so be careful about using Swordslash as soon as Firion is in range. {{012tid}} air BRV assist ({{pspl}} + {{pspcir}}) is a universal counter to midair Dreary Cell, so use it if possible. If The Emperor uses midair Flare, dodge it. Tidus assist also works, but do it after the projectile has come out. Use Straightarrow to catch The Emperor's air dodges if he is trying to get away. Firion cannot use Magic Arts to interrupt Starfall, because Starfall blocks them (Ranged Low priority).		:If The Emperor creates distance, it is important to not leave him alone. Pursue him with Free Air Dash. If The Emperor has not set up any traps (Flare, Dreary Cell), Firion can afford to move closer to The Emperor and attempt to use Swordslash. The Emperor may use Dreary Cell to stop Firion from doing this, so be careful about using Swordslash as soon as Firion is in range. {{012tid}} air BRV assist ({{pspl}} + {{pspcir}}) is a universal counter to midair Dreary Cell, so use it if possible. If The Emperor uses midair Flare, dodge it. Tidus assist also works, but do it after the projectile has come out. Use Straightarrow to catch The Emperor's air dodges if he is trying to get away. Firion cannot use Magic Arts to interrupt Starfall, because Starfall blocks them (Ranged Low priority).

	:What if The Emperor has his traps set up? Firion must use an HP attack to stop Starfall. Straightarrow is the safer option here with Auto Assist Lock On and delayable timing. If The Emperor is at the ceiling, Weaponsmaster can work as a high risk {{keyword\|mixup\|mixup=1}} option. Firion usually relies on Straightarrow, though. It forces The Emperor to dodge, but he doesn't have to move away from traps to do Starfall again.		:What if The Emperor has his traps set up? Firion must use an HP attack to stop Starfall. Straightarrow is the safer option here with Auto Assist Lock On and delayable timing. If The Emperor is at the ceiling, Weaponsmaster can work as a high risk {{keyword\|mixup\|mixup=1}} option. Firion usually relies on Straightarrow, though. It forces The Emperor to dodge, but he doesn't have to move away from traps to do Starfall again. It's also important to note, that if Firion is far away, The Emperor can evade Straightarrow by moving during Starfall.

	:This is where assist gauge comes into play. By the time The Emperor casts Starfall, he can probably call assist to interrupt Straightarrow. If The Emperor calls assist right before Straightarrow hits, he gets a bravery break. If Firion fires Straightarrow with maximum delay, this may become easier for The Emperor to anticipate. This is why having assist gauge is important; Firion can escape interceptions with Assist Change. It lets him stay closer to The Emperor, which is also important. If LV2 Assist Change is used, it can also block Jecht assist and lock The Emperor's assist gauge. This gives Firion some much needed momentum to go on the offensive. If The Emperor uses Yuna assist to avoid LV2 Assist Change blocks, he also sacrifices consistency for Starfall loops.		:This is where assist gauge comes into play. By the time The Emperor casts Starfall, he can probably call assist to interrupt Straightarrow. If The Emperor calls assist right before Straightarrow hits, he gets a bravery break. If Firion fires Straightarrow with maximum delay, this may become easier for The Emperor to anticipate. This is why having assist gauge is important; Firion can escape interceptions with Assist Change. It lets him stay closer to The Emperor, which is also important. If LV2 Assist Change is used, it can also block Jecht assist and lock The Emperor's assist gauge. This gives Firion some much needed momentum to go on the offensive. If The Emperor uses Yuna assist to avoid LV2 Assist Change blocks, he also sacrifices consistency for Starfall loops.

Muggshotter: /* The Emperor */ Reworked information with new template.

2026-02-16T12:51:47Z

The Emperor: Reworked information with new template.

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	The Emperor relies on Starfall ~~pressure~~ and people running into his traps~~, so countering both is important here~~. Firion ~~has adequate tools to at least~~ prevent worst case scenarios. ~~Against Thunder Crest and Dreary Cell~~ (~~ground~~)~~, Firion can use Rope Knife and Reel Axe as {{keyword\|disjoints\|disjoint=1}}~~ to ~~poke through them. Straightarrow can force a dodge and punish The Emperor's air dodges. It can also hit through traps, so it's a good move for keeping The Emperor on his back foot~~.		Intro
			:The Emperor relies on activating Starfall and people running into his traps. Firion can avoid traps and prevent worst case scenarios, but it can take some time to establish momentum. Use assist (or EX) gauge to your advantage if possible.

	~~Shield Bash counters Landmine~~ and ~~Mine, so if~~ The Emperor ~~uses them without support from~~ Thunder Crest, use it to ~~pressure~~ for HP damage.		;Neutral
			:Firion's neutral and offense are somewhat intertwined. The Emperor's goal is to create traps to protect himself while he casts Starfall. Expect to see Thunder Crest and Dreary Cell a lot. Stay out of their range, then use Rope Knife and Reel Axe to poke through them. Reel Axe and Straightarrow can force The Emperor to dodge. Once again Straightarrow's aiming and delayed shots form a backbone of Firion's strategy. If The Emperor dodges early, hold and release Straightarrow after he has dodged. If The Emperor has assist gauge, be careful he doesn't call assist and '''[[Bravery_(Dissidia_012)#Bravery_Break\|Bravery Break]]''' you in exchange for HP damage.

	~~Whenever~~ Firion is not ~~actively~~ engaging with The Emperor, ~~it is recommended~~ to ~~build~~ assist gauge with Swordslash and Ground Dash / Free Air Dash (with Assist Gauge Up Dash ability). ~~This is~~ to ~~make~~ Starfall ~~counterplay safer to do~~. If ~~The Emperor attempts to create distance~~ by ~~going high above, it is crucial to not leave him alone~~. ~~He will most likely start casting Starfall, which gives him a strong win condition in large stages due to looping it with Jecht~~ assist~~. Because Starfall blocks Ranged Low attacks during the casting animation~~, ~~Firion cannot use Magic Arts to interrupt The Emperor. This is further compounded if The Emperor is casting Starfall inside his traps, so Swordslash is~~ not ~~always an option either. Therefore Firion must~~ use ~~an HP~~ to ~~stop Starfall. Straightarrow is the safer option here with Auto Assist Lock On and delayable timing. Do note~~, ~~that by~~ the ~~time The Emperor casts Starfall, he can probably call assist to interrupt Straightarrow. If The Emperor calls~~ assist ~~right before Straightarrow hits, he~~ gets ~~a bravery break. If you choose to fire Straightarrow at maximum delay, this may become easier for The Emperor to anticipate~~.		:If Firion is not engaging with The Emperor, try to fill assist gauge with Swordslash {{keyword\|whiffs\|whiff=1}} and Ground Dash / Free Air Dash with Assist Gauge Up Dash ability equipped. Having assist gauge makes it safer to prevent Starfall from activating. If Firion gets hit by Thunder Crest (e.g. after assist), do not use LV2 Assist Change to escape, as the assist gets locked anyway.

	If The Emperor ~~tries to approach Firion and use Flare~~, ~~Firion can~~ use an HP ~~attack in response~~. ~~It is not recommended~~ to ~~just reflect Flare, as Firion's HP attacks have long {{keyword\|recovery\|recovery=1}}. The best HP attack depends~~ on ~~the stage and the angle Firion is in~~, but ~~Lord of Arms and Weaponsmaster have some lateral reach~~.		:If The Emperor uses Landmine or Mine without support from Thunder Crest, use Shield Bash to fish for HP damage. Don't expect to rely on this, but do it if the opportunity presents itself.

	Firion is not expected to trade with traps or stray projectiles often, but his attacks are also somewhat telegraphed if used in response to The Emperor. ~~If The Emperor manages to avoid most Straightarrows,~~ Side by Side builds ~~may not always pull ahead~~. ~~This means Firion may have~~ more ~~time to build~~ assist ~~gauge without landing~~ HP attacks. EX ~~cores~~ can ~~provide~~ long term benefits ~~with the~~ EX gauge, ~~especially if Firion can take advantage of his~~ Blood Weapon ~~perk in~~ EX ~~mode~~. ~~This strategy may have more potential in large stages, but~~ The Emperor can ~~also pressure with~~ Starfall if Firion goes for EX ~~cores~~.		;Offense (Stopping Starfall)
			:Why stop Starfall? It's a strong win condition for The Emperor with Jecht assist loops and Unblockable priority. Once it goes off, it's difficult to fight back. Stopping Starfall takes time and a good understanding of the opponent's patterns. A fight can quickly stagnate, because Straightarrow interrupts Starfall, but doesn't stop The Emperor from doing it again. This is why the match-up is considered even and challenging to win quickly. Small stages like Pandaemonium and M.S Prima Vista can help, since The Emperor cannot create as much distance for Starfall.

			:If The Emperor creates distance, it is important to not leave him alone. Pursue him with Free Air Dash. If The Emperor has not set up any traps (Flare, Dreary Cell), Firion can afford to move closer to The Emperor and attempt to use Swordslash. The Emperor may use Dreary Cell to stop Firion from doing this, so be careful about using Swordslash as soon as Firion is in range. {{012tid}} air BRV assist ({{pspl}} + {{pspcir}}) is a universal counter to midair Dreary Cell, so use it if possible. If The Emperor uses midair Flare, dodge it. Tidus assist also works, but do it after the projectile has come out. Use Straightarrow to catch The Emperor's air dodges if he is trying to get away. Firion cannot use Magic Arts to interrupt Starfall, because Starfall blocks them (Ranged Low priority).

			:What if The Emperor has his traps set up? Firion must use an HP attack to stop Starfall. Straightarrow is the safer option here with Auto Assist Lock On and delayable timing. If The Emperor is at the ceiling, Weaponsmaster can work as a high risk {{keyword\|mixup\|mixup=1}} option. Firion usually relies on Straightarrow, though. It forces The Emperor to dodge, but he doesn't have to move away from traps to do Starfall again.

			:This is where assist gauge comes into play. By the time The Emperor casts Starfall, he can probably call assist to interrupt Straightarrow. If The Emperor calls assist right before Straightarrow hits, he gets a bravery break. If Firion fires Straightarrow with maximum delay, this may become easier for The Emperor to anticipate. This is why having assist gauge is important; Firion can escape interceptions with Assist Change. It lets him stay closer to The Emperor, which is also important. If LV2 Assist Change is used, it can also block Jecht assist and lock The Emperor's assist gauge. This gives Firion some much needed momentum to go on the offensive. If The Emperor uses Yuna assist to avoid LV2 Assist Change blocks, he also sacrifices consistency for Starfall loops.

			;Defense
			:Usually The Emperor's defense is his offense. However, if The Emperor approaches first and uses Flare, Firion can use Lord of Arms or Weaponsmaster in response. This is best done with some distance from The Emperor, so Flare won't hit Firion first. Omni Ground Dash and Multi Air Slide can help. Note, that Firion's HP attacks have long {{keyword\|recovery\|recovery=1}}, so they're not recommended purely for reflecting Flares. The Emperor can use assist to hit {{keyword\|whiff punish\|whiffpunish=1}} after Firion uses an HP attack, so make sure this doesn't cause huge setbacks for Firion. Firion can also use assist to {{keyword\|punish\|punish=1}} Flares, most notably BRV assists when The Emperor is in the air.

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			Firion is not expected to trade with traps or stray projectiles often, but his attacks are also somewhat telegraphed if used in response to The Emperor. Here are some benefits and downsides for both Side by Side and EX builds.

			;Side by Side
			:+ Assist gauge is more readily available after any HP attack connects. More damage can be done in bursts with assist combos.
			:+ {{keyword\|Reads\|read=1}} with HP attacks are rewarded more in small stages on average.
			:- If Firion doesn't land HP attacks often, Side by Side provides diminishing returns.

			;EX
			:+ Assist gauge is less readily available, but can be filled safely with Swordslash
			:+ If Firion doesn't land HP attacks often, he can still fill EX gauge for long term benefits.
			:+ EX mode depletes The Emperor's assist gauge, and '''[[Firion_(Dissidia_012)#Blood_Weapon\|Blood Weapon]]''' can cause huge health leads or comebacks.
			:- Filling EX gauge requires multiple EX Cores, and which take time.
			:- The Emperor can charge Starfall while Firion goes for EX Cores, causing a dilemma for Firion. The Emperor can also get EX Cores.
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Muggshotter: /* Garland */ Adjusted wording on shield bash

2026-02-15T17:08:54Z

Garland: Adjusted wording on shield bash

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	:If Firion gets hit by Deathblow or an assist combo in general, he will be knocked into the air. Use Multi Air Slide / Descent Speed Boost to reposition and get to the ground as quickly as possible. After Twist Drill {{keyword\|empty chase\|emptychase=1}}, Firion is not in range to strike back with Swordslash. Air recover and move away instead. Firion's other moves are too slow to contest here, so using them allows Garland to do Twist Drill and chase Firion again. The one exception to this is the ceiling, in a corner; The corner won't push Firion further, while Garland moves much closer to Firion. This is where Swordslash can actually hit him if Garland tries to push his advantage.		:If Firion gets hit by Deathblow or an assist combo in general, he will be knocked into the air. Use Multi Air Slide / Descent Speed Boost to reposition and get to the ground as quickly as possible. After Twist Drill {{keyword\|empty chase\|emptychase=1}}, Firion is not in range to strike back with Swordslash. Air recover and move away instead. Firion's other moves are too slow to contest here, so using them allows Garland to do Twist Drill and chase Firion again. The one exception to this is the ceiling, in a corner; The corner won't push Firion further, while Garland moves much closer to Firion. This is where Swordslash can actually hit him if Garland tries to push his advantage.

	:Shield Bash won't see much use due to Garland's options against blocks and dodges. Tsunami beats dodges, Lance Charge beats Rope Knife, block ~~and even~~ Swordslash ~~when used pre-emptively~~. But if he is trying to catch Rope Knife from above with Chain Cast (or even Thundaga), Shield Bash gives Firion the long range counter for assist gauge and combos.		:Shield Bash won't see much use due to Garland's options against blocks and dodges. Shield Bash loses to Tsunami and Lance Charge, moves that also beat some of Firion's other options. Tsunami beats dodges, Lance Charge beats Rope Knife and block. Even Swordslash isn't safe from Lance Charge if Firion {{keyword\|auto pilots\|autopilot=1}}. But if Garland is trying to catch Rope Knife from above with Chain Cast (or even Thundaga), Shield Bash gives Firion the long range counter for assist gauge and combos.

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Muggshotter: /* Matchups */ Added info on Sephiroth match-up. Added more info for the Firion match-up. Added new template for Onion, CoD, Cecil and Golbez info.

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Matchups: Added info on Sephiroth match-up. Added more info for the Firion match-up. Added new template for Onion, CoD, Cecil and Golbez info.

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Muggshotter: /* Garland */

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Garland

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	:Firion's goal is to pressure Garland with Straightarrow and prevent him from getting a full EX gauge and causing a {{keyword\|checkmate\|checkmate=1}} situation. Firion has more control over the match at medium / long distances thanks to Straightarrow piercing Cyclone and forcing Garland to dash. In close-range both characters have more options; Firion can {{keyword\|punish\|punish=1}} with Rope Knife, and Garland can power through with Lance Charge. Both can use HP attacks to punish dodges and build momentum with combos. Firion gets more reward in fewer interactions, but falls behind if Garland keeps him airborne with Twist Drill and gets a full EX gauge. Both characters use Kuja assist. Investing into EX gauge depletion is a good idea.		:Firion's goal is to pressure Garland with Straightarrow and prevent him from getting a full EX gauge and causing a {{keyword\|checkmate\|checkmate=1}} situation. Firion has more control over the match at medium / long distances thanks to Straightarrow piercing Cyclone and forcing Garland to dash. In close-range both characters have more options; Firion can {{keyword\|punish\|punish=1}} with Rope Knife, and Garland can power through with Lance Charge. Both can use HP attacks to punish dodges and build momentum with combos. Firion gets more reward in fewer interactions, but falls behind if Garland keeps him airborne with Twist Drill and gets a full EX gauge. Both characters use Kuja assist. Investing into EX gauge depletion is a good idea.

Muggshotter: /* Matchups */

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Matchups

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			=== Garland ===

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