Chase (Dissidia 012) - Revision history

Muggshotter: /* Empty Chase */ Added more info.

2025-06-10T09:33:09Z

Empty Chase: Added more info.

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	== Empty Chase ==		== Empty Chase ==

	~~If no further action~~ is ~~done by~~ the ~~attacker~~ after ~~initiating~~ Chase, ~~the sequence~~ will end~~. At this moment~~, the attacker will recover from the dash and their opponent will be considered in a damaged tumbling state.		Empty Chase is when the player does nothing after starting Chase. In this situation, Chase will end, the attacker will recover from the dash and their opponent will be considered in a damaged tumbling state. Because of this, the opponent can use Recovery Attack and hit the attacker before they can move again. This makes empty Chase risky to do by itself, but few characters have moves that make it safer to use, such as {{012gar}}'s Twist Drill and {{012yuna}}'s Aerospark. In these rare cases, empty Chase is good for getting EX and starting assist combos.

			An empty Chase can also enforce a ground wall rush if the opponent is almost touching the ground. While this is more practical for most characters, it remains situational due characters' moves and positioning requirements.

	= 1 Hit Chase =		= 1 Hit Chase =

Muggshotter: /* Chase HP attack */

2025-05-09T11:42:33Z

Chase HP attack

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	'''Chase HP''' is a single hit HP attack that sends the opponent back even further than chase bravery. This deals HP damage and its wall rush potential is higher ~~thanks~~ to the significantly longer knockback. Chase HP '''takes 61 frames (~1 sec.) to impact'''. As such, waiting to react to this attack is practical, but the risk of suffering a bravery attack can be very costly depending on the situation.		'''Chase HP''' is a single hit HP attack that sends the opponent back even further than chase bravery. This deals HP damage and its wall rush potential is higher due to the significantly longer knockback. Chase HP '''takes 61 frames (~1 sec.) to impact'''. As such, waiting to react to this attack is practical, but the risk of suffering a bravery attack can be very costly depending on the situation.

	The reward for landing an HP attack is much higher on average; It deals inescapable damage that can end a match, depletes assist and / or ex gauge (with appropriate equipment) and generates a lot of assist gauge when Side by Side {{accsp}} and EXP to Assist are equipped. The damage potential is also high as a result, since wall rush deals additional damage and allows Assist follow-ups.		The reward for landing an HP attack is much higher on average; It deals inescapable damage that can end a match, depletes assist and / or ex gauge (with appropriate equipment) and generates a lot of assist gauge when Side by Side {{accsp}} and EXP to Assist are equipped. The damage potential is also high as a result, since wall rush deals additional damage and allows Assist follow-ups.

Muggshotter: /* Chase HP attack */ Adjusted wording.

2025-05-09T11:36:07Z

Chase HP attack: Adjusted wording.

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	'''Chase HP''' is a single hit attack that ~~will send~~ the opponent ~~away from the current position with the ability to~~ wall rush~~. The knockback~~ is significantly longer ~~than with the bravery attack~~. ~~This attack will only deal~~ HP ~~damage and~~ '''it takes 61 frames to impact'''. As such, waiting to react to this attack is ~~well within the realm of possiblity~~ but the risk of suffering a bravery attack can be very costly depending on the situation ~~of the match~~.		'''Chase HP''' is a single hit HP attack that sends the opponent back even further than chase bravery. This deals HP damage and its wall rush potential is higher thanks to the significantly longer knockback. Chase HP '''takes 61 frames (~1 sec.) to impact'''. As such, waiting to react to this attack is practical, but the risk of suffering a bravery attack can be very costly depending on the situation.

	The reward for landing an HP attack is much higher on average~~, given it~~ deals inescapable damage that can end ~~the~~ match, ~~deplete~~ assist and / or ex ~~meter, generate~~ a lot of assist ~~meter thanks to~~ Side by Side and EXP to Assist. The damage potential is also high as a result, ~~with~~ wall rush ~~enabling~~ additional damage ~~via wall rush damage boosts~~ and Assist ~~followups~~.		The reward for landing an HP attack is much higher on average; It deals inescapable damage that can end a match, depletes assist and / or ex gauge (with appropriate equipment) and generates a lot of assist gauge when Side by Side {{accsp}} and EXP to Assist are equipped. The damage potential is also high as a result, since wall rush deals additional damage and allows Assist follow-ups.

	Due to ~~the attack~~'s lengthy startup, it is possible to use it to set up Aerith assist's Seal Evil against opponents who dodge it. This can be considered a sort of checkmate situation in which neither outcome can be beneficial for the opponent.		Due to chase HP's lengthy startup, it is possible to use it to set up Aerith assist's Seal Evil against opponents who dodge it. This can be considered a sort of checkmate situation in which neither outcome can be beneficial for the opponent.

	Chase HP ~~attack~~ is the only way {{012gab}} can deal HP damage without EX Mode or Assist.		Chase HP is the only way {{012gab}} can deal HP damage without EX Mode or Assist.

	Both BRV and HP attacks during Chase generate 60 EX Force. However, because a dodge also generates 15 EX Force, a successful HP attack that wins against an early dodge will yield more EX Force in total for the attacker.		Both BRV and HP attacks during Chase generate 60 EX Force. However, because a dodge also generates 15 EX Force, a successful HP attack that wins against an early dodge will yield more EX Force in total for the attacker.

Muggshotter: /* Chase Bravery attack */

2025-05-09T11:28:22Z

Chase Bravery attack

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	'''Chase Bravery''' is a single hit attack that ~~will send~~ the opponent back~~, with the ability to~~ '''[[Wall_Rush_(Dissidia_012_Final_Fantasy)\|wall rush]]''' if near a wall. The angle of this attack can be altered with the analog stick {{pspana}} to send the opponent upwards or downwards, but the start-up speed and wall rush potential remain the same.		'''Chase Bravery''' is a single hit attack that sends the opponent back. It can '''[[Wall_Rush_(Dissidia_012_Final_Fantasy)\|wall rush]]''' if done near a wall. The angle of this attack can be altered with the analog stick {{pspana}} to send the opponent upwards or downwards, but the start-up speed and wall rush potential remain the same.

	The damage type depends on the character. Golbez, Kefka, Kuja and Shantotto have magic type bravery attacks and thus scale with equipment that boosts magic damage. Everyone else has a physical type bravery attack during Chase. {{012pri}} is an exception, her damage type depends on the input of this attack; Circle {{pspcir}} is a physical type, while Up + Circle (Up + {{pspcir}}) and Down + Circle (Down + {{pspcir}}) are magic type.		The damage type depends on the character. Golbez, Kefka, Kuja and Shantotto have magic type bravery attacks and thus scale with equipment that boosts magic damage. Everyone else has a physical type bravery attack during Chase. {{012pri}} is an exception, her damage type depends on the input of this attack; Circle {{pspcir}} is a physical type, while Up + Circle (Up + {{pspcir}}) and Down + Circle (Down + {{pspcir}}) are magic type.

Muggshotter: /* Chase Bravery attack */ Adjusted wording, added more button icons.

2025-05-09T11:27:34Z

Chase Bravery attack: Adjusted wording, added more button icons.

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	'''Chase Bravery''' is a single hit attack that will send the opponent back, with the ability to '''[[Wall_Rush_(Dissidia_012_Final_Fantasy)\|wall rush]]''' if near a wall. The angle of this attack can be altered with the analog stick to send the opponent upwards or downwards ~~whenever this action can be performed~~, but the start-up speed and wall rush potential remain the same.		'''Chase Bravery''' is a single hit attack that will send the opponent back, with the ability to '''[[Wall_Rush_(Dissidia_012_Final_Fantasy)\|wall rush]]''' if near a wall. The angle of this attack can be altered with the analog stick {{pspana}} to send the opponent upwards or downwards, but the start-up speed and wall rush potential remain the same.

	The damage ~~multiplier property~~ depends on the character. ~~Shantotto,~~ Golbez, Kefka and ~~Kuja~~ have magic type bravery attacks and thus scale with equipment that boosts magic damage~~, while everyone~~ else has a physical type bravery attack during Chase. {{012pri}} is an exception, her damage type depends on the input of this attack. Up + Circle or Down + Circle ~~is a~~ magic ~~type and only Circle is a physical~~ type.		The damage type depends on the character. Golbez, Kefka, Kuja and Shantotto have magic type bravery attacks and thus scale with equipment that boosts magic damage. Everyone else has a physical type bravery attack during Chase. {{012pri}} is an exception, her damage type depends on the input of this attack; Circle {{pspcir}} is a physical type, while Up + Circle (Up + {{pspcir}}) and Down + Circle (Down + {{pspcir}}) are magic type.

	Since ~~the~~ bravery ~~chase attack~~ can wall rush, assist ~~followups~~ are possible ~~and any~~ action that is related to ~~Assist~~ or EX ~~meters~~ can be performed after ~~the~~ attack has connected. To many people, this is an unreactable move and trying to evade this can be used to trick them into sustaining an HP attack during Chase instead.		Since chase bravery can wall rush, assist follow-ups are possible. Any action that is related to assist or EX can be performed after this attack has connected. To many people, this is an unreactable move and trying to evade this can be used to trick them into sustaining an HP attack during Chase instead.

	== Chase HP attack ==		== Chase HP attack ==

Muggshotter at 11:16, 9 May 2025

2025-05-09T11:16:47Z

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	Chase is a battle mechanic where players take turns in attacking each other. Whenever an attack with Chase property connects, the player can pursue the opponent, and attack with a bravery or an HP attack. The opponent must defend against these options by dodging at the right time by pressing Cross. If no action is taken, Chase ends almost immediately.		Chase is a battle mechanic where players take turns in attacking each other. Whenever an attack with Chase property connects, the player can pursue the opponent, and attack with a bravery or an HP attack. The opponent must defend against these options by dodging at the right time by pressing Cross {{pspcro}}. If no action is taken, Chase ends almost immediately.

	Compared to the original ''Dissidia Final Fantasy'', Chase has been sped up considerably. The chase dash is almost instant and the bravery attack is much faster. This means reacting to both attacks is no longer as practical as it is in the original game.		Compared to the original ''Dissidia Final Fantasy'', Chase has been sped up considerably. The chase dash is almost instant and the bravery attack is much faster. This means reacting to both attacks is no longer as practical as it is in the original game.
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	Chase can be extended with braveries until players end up in '''[[Bravery_(Dissidia_012)#Banish_Trap\|banish traps]]''' or near walls. Both chase attacks can force a banish trap teleport and '''[[Wall_Rush_(Dissidia_012_Final_Fantasy)\|Wall Rush]]'''. As per wall rush conventions, assist combos and using '''[[EX_(Dissidia_012)#EX_Revenge\|EX Revenge]]''' are possible.		Chase can be extended with braveries until players end up in '''[[Bravery_(Dissidia_012)#Banish_Trap\|banish traps]]''' or near walls. Both chase attacks can force a banish trap teleport and '''[[Wall_Rush_(Dissidia_012_Final_Fantasy)\|Wall Rush]]'''. As per wall rush conventions, assist combos and using '''[[EX_(Dissidia_012)#EX_Revenge\|EX Revenge]]''' are possible.

	If nothing is done, Chase ends and the defender is considered in a damaged, tumbling state. That gives them an opportunity to retaliate with a recovery ~~attaack~~. This practically punishes most characters for ~~backpedalling~~ on chase, but few characters can make it safe on their own.		If nothing is done, Chase ends and the defender is considered in a damaged, tumbling state. That gives them an opportunity to retaliate with a recovery attack. This practically punishes most characters for backpedaling on chase, but few characters can make it safe on their own.

	The player who initiates chase will absorb all EX Force floating in the stage.		The player who initiates chase will absorb all EX Force floating in the stage.

Muggshotter: /* Overview */ Added info on 012 changes.

2025-03-13T01:25:51Z

Overview: Added info on 012 changes.

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	Chase is a battle mechanic where players take turns in attacking each other. Whenever an attack with Chase property connects, the player can pursue the opponent, and attack with a bravery or an HP attack. The opponent must defend against these options by dodging at the right time by pressing Cross. If no action is taken, Chase ends almost immediately.		Chase is a battle mechanic where players take turns in attacking each other. Whenever an attack with Chase property connects, the player can pursue the opponent, and attack with a bravery or an HP attack. The opponent must defend against these options by dodging at the right time by pressing Cross. If no action is taken, Chase ends almost immediately.

			Compared to the original ''Dissidia Final Fantasy'', Chase has been sped up considerably. The chase dash is almost instant and the bravery attack is much faster. This means reacting to both attacks is no longer as practical as it is in the original game.

	Chase is known to enforce interaction and promote polarising gameplay in competitive play. Since interactions are reduced to an attack and a dodge, the possibility space during Chase is small. It presents a good risk / reward ratio for the attacker (especially with Side by Side {{accsp}}), and requires two consecutive correct decisions from the defender to resolve it. Doing nothing during chase is usually unsafe for the attacker, so chase will create certain risk for both players regardless of outcome.		Chase is known to enforce interaction and promote polarising gameplay in competitive play. Since interactions are reduced to an attack and a dodge, the possibility space during Chase is small. It presents a good risk / reward ratio for the attacker (especially with Side by Side {{accsp}}), and requires two consecutive correct decisions from the defender to resolve it. Doing nothing during chase is usually unsafe for the attacker, so chase will create certain risk for both players regardless of outcome.

Muggshotter: Added images. Added basics, reworded overview, added line break to chase brv damage type. Added another legal scenario for 1 hit chase.

2025-03-13T01:22:49Z

Added images. Added basics, reworded overview, added line break to chase brv damage type. Added another legal scenario for 1 hit chase.

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	This rule applies to both players regardless of who initiates chase first. What is important is not following a chase bravery attack with another chase bravery or HP attack in a row.		This rule applies to both players regardless of who initiates chase first. What is important is not following a chase bravery attack with another chase bravery or HP attack in a row.

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Muggshotter: /* Chase HP attack */ adjusted wording on knockback. Shortened sentence on reward on hit.

2024-01-14T09:40:11Z

Chase HP attack: adjusted wording on knockback. Shortened sentence on reward on hit.

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	'''HP attack''' is ~~also~~ a single hit attack that will ~~greatly~~ send the opponent away from the current position with the ability to wall rush. This attack will only deal HP damage, '''it takes 61 frames to impact'''. As such, waiting to react to this attack is well within the realm of possiblity but the risk of suffering a bravery attack can be very costly depending on the situation of the match.		'''HP attack''' is a single hit attack that will send the opponent away from the current position with the ability to wall rush. The knockback is significantly longer than with the bravery attack. This attack will only deal HP damage and '''it takes 61 frames to impact'''. As such, waiting to react to this attack is well within the realm of possiblity but the risk of suffering a bravery attack can be very costly depending on the situation of the match.

	The reward for landing an HP attack is much higher on average, given it deals inescapable damage that can end the match, deplete assist and / or ex meter ~~as well as~~ generate a lot of assist meter thanks to Side by Side and ~~to a lesser extent,~~ EXP to Assist. The damage potential is also high as a result, with wall rush enabling additional damage via wall rush damage boosts and Assist followups.		The reward for landing an HP attack is much higher on average, given it deals inescapable damage that can end the match, deplete assist and / or ex meter, generate a lot of assist meter thanks to Side by Side and EXP to Assist. The damage potential is also high as a result, with wall rush enabling additional damage via wall rush damage boosts and Assist followups.

	Due to the attack's lengthy windup, it is possible to use it to set up Aerith assist's Seal Evil to connect on an opponent who attempts to dodge the HP attack. This can be considered a checkmate situation in which neither outcome can be beneficial for the opponent.		Due to the attack's lengthy windup, it is possible to use it to set up Aerith assist's Seal Evil to connect on an opponent who attempts to dodge the HP attack. This can be considered a checkmate situation in which neither outcome can be beneficial for the opponent.