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{{CharacterInfo
 
|name=Cecil Harvey (セシル・ハーヴィ)
 
|origin=Final Fantasy IV
 
|weapon=Axes, Greatswords, Swords
 
|armor=Gauntlets, Heavy Armor, Helms, Light Armor, Shields
 
|runspeed= 9 (Dark Knight, Slow) / 5 (Paladin, Above Average)
 
|dash=81 (Dark Knight, Below Average) / 77 (Paladin, Average / Good)
 
|fall=81 (Dark Knight, Average) / 89 (Paladin, Below Average)
 
|fallr=39 (Dark Knight, Average) / 40 (Paladin, Average)
 
|exclusives=Dark Sword, Mythgraven Blade, Lustrous Sword, Lightbringer, Cimmerian Edge
 
}}
 
{{ProConTable
 
|pros=
 
|cons=
 
}}
 
== Overview ==
 
Cecil Harvey is a close / mid-range character who functions with two different movesets - Dark Knight and Paladin. Due to the risky nature of changing jobs and their distinct strengths, it is often recommended to focus on one job over the other. Cecil can whiff punish effectively from a variety of angles, has decent assist synergy and bravery damage output.
 
However he struggles to generate assist meter on whiff due to long start-ups, animation length and late cancel opportunities. EX generation is good for Paladin, but weaker in Dark Knight. With less than ideal speed and tracking, limited effective angles, difficulties staying safe and keeping up in meter economy, Cecil often takes relatively high risks for a lower return.
 
His arguably safer repertoire is restricted to ground (Dark Knight), which also does not often force his opponents to play into his strengths.
 
Cecil has been primarily a bottom tier character, with some hope for low tier status. Temper your expectations and you may discover a fun character for yourself.
 
Build styles:
* Side by Side (Dark Knight)
* EX (Paladin)
 
== Bravery Attacks ==
 
=== Ground (Dark Knight) ===
<tabber>
|-|Valiant Blow=
{{AbilityInfo
|damage=10,10,20 (40)
|startup=15F
|type=Physical
|priority=Melee Low
|ex=30
|effect=Wall rush
|cp=20 (10)
}}
''[Close] Jab foe with blade. Can send foe flying.''
 
|-|Dark Cannon=
{{AbilityInfo
|damage=1x4, 2x4, 3 (15)
|startup=41F
|type=Magical
|priority=Ranged Low (forward), Ranged Mid (backward)
|ex=each 3
|effect=Block (Ranged Low)
|cp=20 (10)
}}
''[Long] Draw foe with projectile. Good start for other combos.''
 
|-|Shadow Lance=
{{AbilityInfo
|damage=8, 7x6 (50)
|startup=35F
|type=Physical
|priority=Melee High (close), Ranged Low (far)
|ex=~20
|effect=Wall rush
|cp=20 (10)
}}
''[Mid] Throw weapon. Major damage if lands near opponent.''
 
</tabber>
 
=== Ground (Paladin) ===
<tabber>
|-|Slash=
{{AbilityInfo
|damage=10, 10 (20)
|startup=23F
|type=Physical
|priority=Melee Low
|ex=90
|effect=Chase
|cp=20 (10)
}}
''[Close] Hit foe upwards. Slow, but very accurate strike.''
 
|-|Lightning Rise=
{{AbilityInfo
|damage=3,3,5,4,4,11 (30)
|startup=43F
|type=Physical
|priority=Melee Mid (first half), Melee Low (second half)
|ex=90
|effect=Chase, Block (Ranged Low)
|cp=20 (10)
}}
''[Mid] Charge, then leap. Good start for midair attacks.''
 
Contrary to what the description says in the game, it is ''not'' a good start for midair attacks. The slow startup time makes it impractical against vigilant players and chase limits viable assist combo conversions.
 
|-|Dark Step=
{{AbilityInfo
|damage=5,10, 1x2, 10 (27)
|startup=23F
|type=Physical
|priority=Melee Low
|ex=90
|effect=Chase, job change
|cp=20 (10)
}}
''[Close] Change job to Dark Knight during combo.''
 
</tabber>
 
=== Aerial (Dark Knight) ===
<tabber>
|-|Gravity Ball=
{{AbilityInfo
|damage=7, 2x4 (15)
|startup=37F
|type=Magical
|priority=Ranged Low
|ex=0
|effect=
|cp=
}}
''[Mid] Fire off gravity ball. Good start for ground attacks.''
 
|-|Nightfall=
{{AbilityInfo
|damage=1 each, 24 (25+)
|startup=37F
|type=Physical
|priority=Melee Low (falling), Ranged Mid (landing)
|ex=60+
|effect=Chase
|cp=20 (10)
}}
''[Close] High-speed dive. Useful for quick descents.''
 
|-|Paladin Arts=
{{AbilityInfo
|damage=7, 2x4, 3x5 (30)
|startup=37F
|type=Magical
|priority=Ranged Low
|ex=0
|effect=Job change
|cp=20 (10)
}}
''[Mid] Change job to Paladin during combo.''
 
</tabber>
 
=== Aerial (Paladin) ===
<tabber>
|-|Radiant Wings=
{{AbilityInfo
|damage=3,3,7,6,6,6,9 (40)
|startup=19F
|type=Physical
|priority=Melee Low
|ex=30
|effect=Wall rush
|cp=20 (10)
}}
 
|-|Sacred Cross=
{{AbilityInfo
|damage=3x5, 5,10 (30)
|startup=21F
|type=Physical
|priority=Melee Low
|ex=90
|effect=Chase
|cp=20 (10)
}}
 
 
|-|Searchlight=
{{AbilityInfo
|damage=3x5 (15)
|startup=95F
|type=Magical
|priority=Ranged Low
|ex=0
|effect=--
|cp=20 (10)
}}
</tabber>
 
== HP Attacks ==
 
=== Ground ===
<tabber>
|-|Soul Eater=
{{AbilityInfo
|damage=4, 2x5, 6 (20)
|startup=39F
|type=Physical
|priority=Melee High
|ex=30
|effect=Wall rush
|cp=30 (15)
}}
''[Close] Stab fore and devour his soul. Limited height, quick strike.''
 
|-|Dark Flame=
{{AbilityInfo
|damage=--
|startup=53F
|type=--
|priority=Ranged High
|ex=0
|effect=Wall rush
|cp=30 (15)
}}
''[Long] Summon dark fire. Slow speed, strong homing.''
 
|-|Shadow Bringer=
{{AbilityInfo
|damage=10,10 (20)
|startup=13F
|type=Physical
|priority=Melee High
|ex=30
|effect=Wall rush, Dark Knight BRV damage +3%, Paladin BRV damage -3%
|cp=30 (15)
}}
''[Ultra-close] Dark sword slash. Dark Knight BRV damage +3%, Paladin BRV damage -3%.''
 
Equipping Shadow Bringer will lock you out equipping the aerial Luminous Shard HP for the Paladin job.
</tabber>
 
=== Aerial ===
 
<tabber>
|-|Saint's Fall=
{{AbilityInfo
|damage=1x3, 2, 1x2, 3 (10)
|startup=53F
|type=Physical
|priority=Melee High
|ex=30
|effect=Wall rush
|cp=30 (15)
}}
''[Mid] Focus light and charge. From afar, good vs. any height.''
 
|-|Paladin Force=
{{AbilityInfo
|damage=2x5, 5 (15)
|startup=43F
|type=Both
|priority=Ranged High (first hit), Melee High (other hits)
|ex=30
|effect=Wall rush
|cp=30 (15)
}}
''[Close] Holy sword magic. Effective against any height.''
 
|-|Luminous Shard=
{{AbilityInfo
|damage=--
|startup=63F
|type=--
|priority=Ranged High
|ex=60
|effect=Paladin BRV damage +3%, Dark Knight BRV damage -3%
|cp=30 (15)
}}
''[Long] Shoot light projectiles. Paladin BRV damage +3%. Dark Knight BRV damage -3%.''
 
Equipping Luminous Shard will lock you out equipping the grounded Shadow Bringer HP for the Dark Knight job.
 
</tabber>
 
== EX Mode: Job Augment ==
 
Effects:
 
* Regen
* Critical Boost
* Proteus
* Inner Strength
 
=== Proteus ===
 
''[Activate with R + Square] Bridles light and darkness to instantly change jobs without attacking.''
 
=== Inner Strength ===
 
''[Always active while in EX Mode] Each is 1.5 times as powerful.''
 
=== EX Burst: Soul Shift ===
 
''A chain of attacks combining the power of light and darkness. Enter the commands that appear on both sides of the screen at the same time.''
 
{{burst
 
|damage1=6,9 (15, DK)
 
|damage2=15 (PA), 25 (DK), 7x2 (DK), 30 (PA) (99 total)
 
|type=Both
 
}}
 
== About the Job System ==
Cecil has two jobs, but only has access to one of them at a time. To change jobs, either use Paladin Arts or Dark Step braveries, or grounded HP attack to access Dark Knight or aerial HP to access Paladin.
 
Jobs can be changed freely outside of attack animations during EX mode by pressing R+Square. This means Cecil often makes himself vulnerable in order to change movesets, making this adjustment rather risky for Cecil. Not only that, equipping Shadow Bringer or Luminous Shard HP attack locks Cecil out of equipping the other HP, further incentivising into dedicated Dark Knight or Paladin play.
 
Cecil ALWAYS starts a fight in Dark Knight form, meaning Paladin-focused players will have to perform an HP attack as soon as the match starts, or bide their time in Dark Knight form until they have an opportunity to change forms without being punished.
 
== Builds ==
<tabber>
|-|Side by Side (Dark Knight)=
{{Build
|hp=9883
|cp=450
|brv=1623
|atk=176
|def=182
|luk=61
|booster=x3.5
|setbonus=None
|ast=Jecht / Sephiroth / Yuna
|wpn=Piggy's Stick
|hand=Chainsaw
|head=Thornlet
|armor=Maximillian
|acc1=<img>https://resources.dissidia.wiki/ddff/items/acc/accessory_basic.png</img> Sniper Eye
|acc2=<img>https://resources.dissidia.wiki/ddff/items/acc/accessory_basic.png</img> Dismay Shock
|acc3=<img>https://resources.dissidia.wiki/ddff/items/acc/accessory_basic.png</img> Battle Hammer
|acc4=<img>https://resources.dissidia.wiki/ddff/items/acc/accessory_booster.png</img> Empty EX Gauge
|acc5=<img>https://resources.dissidia.wiki/ddff/items/acc/accessory_booster.png</img> Summon Unused
|acc6=<img>https://resources.dissidia.wiki/ddff/items/acc/accessory_booster.png</img> Pre-EX Mode
|acc7=<img>https://resources.dissidia.wiki/ddff/items/acc/accessory_booster.png</img> Pre-EX Revenge
|acc8=<img>https://resources.dissidia.wiki/ddff/items/acc/accessory_special.png</img> Blue Gem
|acc9=<img>https://resources.dissidia.wiki/ddff/items/acc/accessory_special.png</img> Miracle Shoes
|acc10=<img>https://resources.dissidia.wiki/ddff/items/acc/accessory_special.png</img> Side by Side
|summon=Rubicante
}}
Use the [[CP_Glitch_(Dissidia_012)|CP glitch]] with Equip Machines and Bard's Gear.
 
Blue Gem and Miracle Shoes can be substituted with Together as One, Hero's Seal or Back-Breaking Straw (to offset Thornlet penalties).
 
Boosters "Grounded" and "BRV = 0" can enhance HP wall rush damage with a higher multiplier at the cost of lower base bravery.
 
|-|Hybrid (Paladin)=
{{Build
|hp=10299
|cp=450
|brv=956 (1147 with First to Victory)
|atk=178
|def=183
|luk=60
|booster=x3.0
|setbonus=Judgment of Lufenia
|ast=Kuja / Aerith
|wpn=Cleaver
|hand=Lufenian Shield
|head=Lufenian Helm
|armor=Lufenian Armor
|acc1=<img>https://resources.dissidia.wiki/ddff/items/acc/accessory_basic.png</img>Hyper Ring
|acc2=<img>https://resources.dissidia.wiki/ddff/items/acc/accessory_basic.png</img>Muscle Belt
|acc3=<img>https://resources.dissidia.wiki/ddff/items/acc/accessory_basic.png</img>Dismay Shock
|acc4=<img>https://resources.dissidia.wiki/ddff/items/acc/accessory_booster.png</img> Summon Unused
|acc5=<img>https://resources.dissidia.wiki/ddff/items/acc/accessory_booster.png</img> Pre-EX Mode
|acc6=<img>https://resources.dissidia.wiki/ddff/items/acc/accessory_booster.png</img> Pre-EX Revenge
|acc7=<img>https://resources.dissidia.wiki/ddff/items/acc/accessory_booster.png</img> Opponent Summon Unused
|acc8=<img>https://resources.dissidia.wiki/ddff/items/acc/accessory_special.png</img> White Gem
|acc9=<img>https://resources.dissidia.wiki/ddff/items/acc/accessory_special.png</img> Tenacious Attacker
|acc10=<img>https://resources.dissidia.wiki/ddff/items/acc/accessory_special.png</img> First to Victory
|summon=Rubicante
}}
Use the [[CP_Glitch_(Dissidia_012)|CP glitch]] with Ranger's Gear.
 
"Muscle Belt" basic accessory and "Opponent Summon Unused" booster can be substituted with what the player wants more.
 
Tenacious Attacker is not essential if Aerith assist is used. Hero's Essence can be used for additional Extra Abilities (critical hit rate). Winged Boots is good for banish trap stages.
</tabber>
 
== Assists ==
Cecil's assist data
 
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Attack !! Startup !! Spawns near !! Damage Multiplier !! Additional properties
|-
| Shadow Lance (Ground BRV) || 35F || Opponent || 8, 7 x 6 (up to 50) || Melee High (close), Ranged Low (far), Wall Rush
|-
| Radiant Wings (Midair BRV) || 19F || Opponent || 3, 3, 7, 6, 6, 9 (40) || Wall Rush
|-
| Soul Eater (Ground HP) || 39F || Opponent || 4, 2 x 5, 6 (20) || Wall Rush
|-
| Saint's Fall (Midair HP) || 53F || Opponent || 1 x 3, 2, 1 x 2, 3 (10) || Wall Rush
|-
|}
 
=== Dark Knight Assists ===
<tabber>
|-|Jecht=
Fast whiff punishes, converts off of Cecil's key moves and wall rush, sets up solo combos and lets him transition into Dark Knight from Paladin on hit as part of a combo.
 
|-|Sephiroth=
Whiff punishes and more notably, easy knockback cancels. With assist meter, Cecil won't have to rely on wall rushes for assist conversions.
 
|-|Yuna=
Ranged Low priority that isn't staggered by LV2 Assist Change, converts off of key moves, wall rush and often works within Cecil's effective range in smaller stages.
</tabber>
 
=== Paladin Assists ===
<tabber>
|-|Aerith=
Lets Cecil combo Sacred Cross into an HP by initiating a chase at the cost of no EX depletion on hit. As such, can set up solo combos anywhere. Combos safely into Luminous Shard without being staggered by LV2 Assist Change.
 
|-|Tidus=
Fastest whiff punisher in the air with less air combo potential, but ground assist can wall rush on the ground for extended solo combos.
 
|-|Yuna=
Air conversions have restrictions, but doesn't stagger from LV2 Assist Change. Works well when playing near the ground.
 
</tabber>

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