Tidus (Dissidia 012)

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Name Tidus (ティーダ)
Original game Final Fantasy X
Base ATK (LV100) 110 (Average)
Base DEF (LV100) 111 (Average)
Run Speed 4 (Normal, Fast), 1.5 (EX Mode, Very Fast)
Dash Speed 73 (Normal, Fast), 65 (EX Mode, Fastest)
Fall Speed 73 (Normal, Above Average), 65 (EX Mode, Fastest)
Fall Speed Ratio After Dodge 20 (Normal, Very Fast), 14 (EX Mode, Very Fast)
Fastest BRV
Fastest HP
1-Hit HP
HP Links
Command Block
Weapon Swords, Grappling Weapons, Daggers, Thrown Weapons
Armor Shields, Bangles, Hats, Helms, Clothing,
Light armor, Headbands, Chestplates
Exclusive weapons Official Ball, Striker, Grand Slam, World Champion
Unlock
Alignment
Voice Actor (JP)
Voice Actor (ENG)


Strengths Weaknesses
  • Well rounded close range moveset that lets Tidus poke, whiff punish and rack up damage efficiently.
  • Mobility - Run speed, dash speed and fall speed after air dodges are all high tier, if not top of the line, which complement Tidus' offense and defense.
  • Post-dodge interactions - With strong movement, dodge punish options and evasive attacks to cover him, Tidus is well equipped for dodge punishment.
  • EX - Good EX generation on his pokes and EX Mode's increased damage relative to his health provide worthwhile returns over time, including one of the strongest EX Bursts in the game.
  • Increased tracking during assist call empower dodge punishment and vertical approaches alike with select few attacks, which is an uncommon strength in the roster.
  • HP Attacks' vulnerability to Assist Change can limit Tidus' ability to output HP damage safely, as he often relies on blocks and assist to land HPs.
  • Lackluster ranged tools - Despite having projectiles, their reward on hit and effectiveness in neutral make them unreliable for zoning or anti-zoning measures.
  • No single hit HP attack complicates Final EX Revenge situations.


Overview

Tidus is an agile close-range fighter who can fight offensively and defensively as the situation demands. He is well rounded in close quarters, from the notorious Hop Step bravery to good call-out tools, meter gain and dodge punishment game. All of this is punctuated by his mobility; Every aspect of Tidus' movement ranks high or is flat out best in class. Creating distance and generating assist meter with linear dashes is no problem, nor is evading attacks with running and he is always competitive in EX Core races. On top of that, Tidus has one of the fastest post-air dodge fall ratios in the game which makes his aerial dodges a lot safer to use on average. And if the opponent is in range to punish his dodge, one of the three evasive bravery attacks can act a last resort retaliation to keep him safe.

When it comes to builds, Tidus commonly works with both EX and Assist with an emphasis on damage or bravery boost on dodge. Compared to Warrior of Light and Cloud who can specialise in several build styles, Tidus' competitive build variety is a bit less flexible. He is not a proficient user of Side by Side and he relies on assist to land his HPs. His average ATK and DEF stats may not impress at first, but building for bravery damage is worth the investment, especially against characters without high base defense stat. At high health, Tidus can also take advantage of the increased damage multiplier during his EX Mode, which affects not just his braveries but also EX Burst; At full health Tidus can score one of the strongest EX Bursts in the game. And even without high-end damage, Tidus generates a good amount of EX from most of his moves and he tends to land one of them frequently (Hop Step). This means that Tidus can establish a solid lead with meter over time, whether the player invests into EX or not.

Another one of his distinct strengths lies in unconventional use of assist - A handful of Tidus' attacks have greatly increased vertical tracking if they move Tidus during an assist call. This is great for surprise attacks and punishing air dodges or long-winded attacks from afar. The window for this is brief, but the movement is executed quickly.

Tidus' weaknesses may not be immediately apparent, but they do exist. His reliance on Hop Step and assist lowers his burst damage potential for individual interactions, which can skew the risk / reward ratio against him without meter. The few projectiles he has have limited reach, poor conversion potential or long animations. The other disjoint in Stick & Move bravery is telegraphed and his vertical reach with attacks is mostly below average without assist. The dodge attacks in general are telegraphed with little utility outside of the initial invincibility. His assist synergy is a bit limited -albeit effective as is- without ground due to short hit stun starters, slow startup, high knockback Chase enders or inadequate tracking on HPs. The prowess of the Aerith assist's synergy can also leave some whiff punishes and meter depletion on the table. The HP attacks have long animations on hit, which can restrict Tidus' avenues for HP damage if the opponent can escape with Assist Change. The act of multi-hit braveries during HP attacks presents another problem; Tidus cannot resolve EX Revenge checkmates quickly with a fast single hit HP.

In competitive play, Tidus has been ranked at mid tier or high tier. He exhibits strong fundamentals up close and his gameplan is straightforward and easy to pick up. His utility is largely shared across both ground and air moves, which can streamline his gameplay for players picking him up for the first time. Tidus can power through higher priority projectiles and even evade The Emperor's infamous Dreary Cell on hit, but he can also struggle to capitalise on these interactions at times. Even so, playing the long game for meter advantage is a tried and true strategy and he does not rely on walls for high damage or stage pressure. Overall, Tidus is a strong character in many ways and he is capable of competing against most of the roster without major struggles.

Bravery Attacks

Tidus' evasive bravery attacks Stick & Move, Dart & Weave and Cut & Run have built-in invincibility. 1-20 frames of invincibility normally, and then 1-40 frames of invincibility when used during EX mode (the same as normal dodge and a dodge with Evasion Boost respectively).

Ground

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
7, 13 (20) 11F Physical Melee Low 90
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Chase 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Close] Distance self from foe. Weak but fast.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
2 x 5, 6, 8, 16 (40) 25F Physical Melee Low 27
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Mid] Charging tackle. Deal more damage when close.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
4 x 7 (28) 41F Physical Ranged Mid 0
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Long] Hurl ball blazingly fast. Deal more damage when close.

The known maximum number of hits is 7.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
2 x 5, 10 (20) 53F Physical Melee Low ~90
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Chase, Dodge 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Dodge] Turn, then throw sword. Evade foe's attack on start.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
1 x 6, 14 (20) 51F Physical Melee Low 75
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Chase, Dodge 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Dodge] Leap, then dive at high speed. Evade attack on start.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
2 x 5, 14 (24) 51F Physical Melee Low ~90
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Chase, Dodge 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Dodge] Retreat, then quickly charge. Evade attack on start.

Aerial

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
7, 13 (20) 11F Physical Melee Low 90
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Chase 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Close] Distance self from foe. Weak but fast.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
2 x 6, 5, 8, 15 (40) 25F Physical Melee Low 30
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Mid] Midair charge. Deal more damage when close.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
10 41F Physical Ranged Low 3
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
- 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Long] Throw blitzball; ricochets off environment.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
2 x 5, 10 (20) 53F Physical Melee Low ~90
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Chase, Dodge 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Dodge] Turn, then throw sword. Evade foe's attack on start.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
1 x 6, 14 (20) 51F Physical Melee Low 75
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Chase, Dodge 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Dodge] Leap, then dive at high speed. Evade attack on start.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
2 x 5, 24 (34) 51F Physical Melee Low ~90
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Chase, Dodge 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Dodge] Retreat, then quickly charge. Evade attack on start.

HP Attacks

Ground

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
1 x 4, 6 (10) 39F Physical Melee High, Block (Ranged Low) 90
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Magic Block 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Mid] Spinning approach. Breaks down foe's defenses.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
4, 1 x 6 (10) 53F Physical, Magical Melee High (kick), Ranged High (projectiles) 90
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
- 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Close] Kick foe, then fire magic. Slow, effective vs. any height.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
1 x 4, 3 (+7) ? Physical Melee High 0
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


Branching from Stick & Move (ground) [Combo] All-out flurry of attacks.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
1 x 4, 3 (+7) ? Physical Melee High 0
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


Branching from Dart & Weave (ground) [Combo] All-out flurry of attacks.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
1 x 4, 3 (+7) ? Physical Melee High 0
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


Branching from Cut & Run (ground) [Combo] All-out flurry of attacks.

Aerial

All versions of Quick Hit share the same attack data.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
5 or 10 (moogle), 10 (15 / 20) 61F Physical Ranged High 30
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Long] Powerful triple kick. Long opening, but great range.

10 % chance of getting a Moogle ball on any of the three shots. If Moogle appears on the first kick, the damage multiplier becomes 10 instead of 5.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
4, 1 x 6 (10) 53F Physical, Magical Melee High (kick), Ranged High (projectiles) 90
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
- 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Close] Kick foe, then fire magic. Slow, effective vs. any height.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
2 x 5 (10) 53F Physical Melee High 90
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
- 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Mid] Rush forward with swimming movement. Vertically limited, but charges a long way.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
1 x 4, 3 (+7) ? Physical Melee High 0
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


Branching from Stick & Move (midair) [Combo] All-out flurry of attacks.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
1 x 4, 3 (+7) ? Physical Melee High 0
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


Branching from Dart & Weave (midair) [Combo] All-out flurry of attacks.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
1 x 4, 3 (+7) ? Physical Melee High 0
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


Branching from Cut & Run (midair) [Combo] All-out flurry of attacks.

EX Mode: Equipped Caladbolg!

Effects:

  • Regen
  • Critical Boost
  • Mirror Dash
  • Caladbolg (ATK)
  • Caladbolg (DODGE)

Mirror Dash

[Active while running] Top running speed increases, deflecting weak magical attacks.

Movement speed increases by x1.25. Block Ranged Low while running.

Caladbolg (ATK)

[Always active while in EX Mode] The higher the user's HP, the sharper the weapon's blade.

Damage multiplier scales to x1~x2 according to current HP%, round down to nearest integer. Higher health means higher damage multiplier.

Caladbolg (DODGE)

[Always active while in EX Mode] The period of invincibility between dodging and attacking increases.

Dodge frames, the invincibility period during a dodge is increased from 1-20 frames to 1-40 frames, which is the same as using the Evasion Boost basic ability.

EX Burst: Blitz Ace

A flurry of attacks leading to a magnificent shot. Watch your timing and press circle when the cursor hits the center.

Damage multiplier (initial) Damage multiplier (rest) Type
1,1 (2) 2x5, 3, 55 (68) (70 total, scales with current HP%) Physical


Combos

Solo

Assist

Builds

Stats
HP 9972
CP 450
BRV 917
ATK 180
DEF 184
LUK 60
Max Booster x13.9
Special Effect: Adamant Chains
Equipment
Assist Aerith
Weapon World Champion
Hand Adamant Shield
Head Adamant Helm
Body Adamant Vest
Accessory 1 accessory_basic.png Zephyr Cloak
Accessory 2 accessory_booster.png BRV > Base Value
Accessory 3 accessory_booster.png Large Gap in BRV
Accessory 4 accessory_booster.png Summon Unused
Accessory 5 accessory_booster.png Pre-EX Mode
Accessory 6 accessory_booster.png Pre-EX Revenge
Accessory 7 accessory_booster.png Aerial
Accessory 8 accessory_booster.png After 30 Seconds
Accessory 9 accessory_booster.png Opponent Empty EX Gauge
Accessory 10 accessory_booster.png Opponent Summon Unused
Summon Rubicante


Dedicated bravery boost on dodge.

Recommended against The Emperor, this build will provide bravery every time Tidus dodges an attack or a projectile with invincibility. If Aerial booster is not active, max booster value is x9.3.

Substitutes: Few adjustments can be made to use this build against characters with less reliance on zoning.

Booster accessory: Empty EX Gauge for Dismay Shock if opponent is not using Side by Side.

A hybrid variant of this build adjusts accessories.

Hybrid variant

Stats
HP 9972
CP 450
BRV 917
ATK 180
DEF 184
LUK 60
Max Booster x8.9
Special Effect: Adamant Chains
Equipment
Assist Aerith
Weapon World Champion
Hand Adamant Shield
Head Adamant Helm
Body Adamant Vest
Accessory 1 accessory_basic.png Muscle Belt
Accessory 2 accessory_basic.png Zephyr Cloak
Accessory 3 accessory_basic.png Dismay Shock
Accessory 4 accessory_booster.png Large Gap in HP
Accessory 5 accessory_booster.png BRV > Base Value
Accessory 6 accessory_booster.png Summon Unused
Accessory 7 accessory_booster.png Pre-EX Mode
Accessory 8 accessory_booster.png Pre-EX Revenge
Accessory 9 accessory_booster.png Aerial
Accessory 10 accessory_booster.png Summon Unused
Summon Rubicante


Without Aerial, max booster value is x5.9. Without Large Gap in HP and Aerial, max booster value is x3.9.

Stats
HP 10299
CP 450
BRV 917
ATK 181
DEF 182
LUK 60
Max Booster x8.2
Special Effect: Seal of Lufenia
Equipment
Assist Aerith
Weapon World Champion
Hand Lufenian Dirk
Head Lufenian Headband
Body Lufenian Vest
Accessory 1 accessory_basic.png Hyper Ring
Accessory 2 accessory_basic.png Muscle Belt
Accessory 3 accessory_basic.png Dismay Shock
Accessory 4 accessory_booster.png Large Gap in HP
Accessory 5 accessory_booster.png Summon Unused
Accessory 6 accessory_booster.png Pre-EX Mode
Accessory 7 accessory_booster.png Pre-EX Revenge
Accessory 8 accessory_booster.png Aerial
Accessory 9 accessory_booster.png After 30 Seconds
Accessory 10 accessory_booster.png Opponent Summon Unused
Summon Scarmiglione


CP Glitch Thief's Gear.

A general purpose damage build. Boosters scale well with advantage and consistent aerial play. x3.0 before aerial or Large Gap in HP activate. x4.6 with aerial. x5.5 with aerial + After 30 seconds. And finally, x8.2 when all boosters are active.

Substitutes Basic accessory: Dismay Shock to Empty EX Gauge (vs. Side by Side, boosts damage even further)

Booster accessory: After 30 Seconds to BRV > Base Value

Assist

Tidus' assist data

Type Attack Startup Position Spawn Damage multiplier Effects
BRV Sonic Buster 25F Ground Opponent 2 x 5, 6, 8, 16 Wall Rush
BRV Hop Step 11F Air Opponent 7, 13 (20) Chase
HP Spiral Cut 39F Ground Opponent 1 x 4, 6 (10) Chase
HP Slice and Dice 53F Air Opponent 2 x 5 (10) Chase


Assists

Tidus works well with Aerith, Jecht, Kuja.

References


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General 0 / 0
Strengths and weaknesses Done. 2 / 2
Overview Done. 1 / 1
Bravery Attacks Ability info, overviews, images. 5 / 5
HP Attacks Ability info, overviews, images. 5 / 5
EX Mode Basic info, EX mode & EX Burst overview, image. Write about mirror dash? 2 / 3
Combos Solo combos added. Assist combos (Aerith) added. Add other assist combos. Add more solo combos if they exist. 6 / 6
Builds 3 builds, with overviews. Adjust based on feedback, if necessary. Add more niche builds, otherwise in good state. 10 / 10
Assist Assist data, Tidus assist overview. Overviews for other assists. 3 / 3
Matchups Matchup analysis and tips. 0 / 32
Resources Helpful links related to character. 0 / 1
Starter Guide Page created, initial content added. Adjust based on feedback. 9 / 9
Strategy Basic strategies and counterstrategies. 6 / 6