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''[Close] Distance self from foe. Weak but fast.''
''[Close] Distance self from foe. Weak but fast.''
A swift sword strike followed by a flying kick that pushes back both Tidus and the opponent. Hop Step is Tidus' key [[Glossary_(Dissidia_012)#Poke|'''poke''']] with fastest startup out of all his moves, low recovery and good EX gain at 90. On hit, the second hit can be confirmed with a lenient input window which leads to Chase, but it also works as an assist combo starter with {{012aer}} assist. The initial hit has short hit stun, but it is enough to combo into other assists as well.
The spinning motion during Hop Step's first hit causes Tidus to cover his vicinity with an active hitbox around him. This, along with the low recovery can make it difficult to whiff punish Hop Step without clashing.
The ground version puts Tidus in an airborne state and the first hit will keep grounded opponents standing, which is important to note for {{012kuja}} and {{012jec}} assist conversions.


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''[Mid] Charging tackle. Deal more damage when close.''
''[Mid] Charging tackle. Deal more damage when close.''
A forward tackle that goes through the opponent twice before striking them down for a wall rush. Sonic Buster is tied with Full Slide for highest base damage with Tidus' bravery attacks at 40 and it works well as a post-block punisher in close range. The lenient input windows for the two followup strikes can be confirmed with ease and they work well as assist combo starters.
Sonic Buster is one of Tidus' many multi-hit attacks that can deal more or less damage to the opponent depending how close he is at the time of performing it. This applies to the initial tackle and getting the maximum amount of hits is most reliable at point-blank range. Using this move from further distance will cause less hits to connect and subsequently reduce the attack's overall damage output slightly.
The startup is slow enough to be reactable and it even has a distinct sound cue. However, this sound effect is shared with Tidus' ''blocking'' state, so adept players can mask it with [[Glossary_(Dissidia_012)#Dash_feint_/_Spot_dash|'''spot dashes''']] to make it more ambigious to opponents who rely on audio to react to this move. Even so, using this move recklessly in the [https://glossary.infil.net/?t=Neutral '''neutral'''] is not advised and because Tidus commonly fights in the air, there may not be many opportunities to even apply it.
Sonic Buster's vertical tracking is not stellar, but it can increase exponentially during assist calls. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KowbxKm8-DQ&t=140 Sonic Buster increased tracking during assist </ref>


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''[Long] Hurl ball blazingly fast. Deal more damage when close.''
''[Long] Hurl ball blazingly fast. Deal more damage when close.''


The known maximum number of hits is 7.
A stationary blitzball throw. Sphere Shot is one of Tidus' three projectiles, but it is not very suited for frequent zoning or building assist meter. The startup is quite slow, the dodge cancel recovery window is average at best and the vertical tracking covers roughly an average ground jump's height.
 
The Ranged Mid priority means blocking Sphere Shot causes the opponent to stagger and as such, it is serviceable for calling out blocks or low priority pokes outside of Hop Step range. However, Tidus does not get enough [https://glossary.infil.net/?t=Frame%20Advantage '''frame advantage'''] and proper spacing from a dodge cancel to connect his other moves. Assists that aren't Aerith can turn this interaction into a combo and on hit, wall rush is also available depending on position.
 
Sphere Shot can do a maximum amount of 8 hits for 32 base damage which is not bad and it scales with physical damage that is already a good investment for Tidus. But getting all hits is only possible at point-blank range, much like Sonic Buster. If done at the same when the opponent blocks, this move will hit after the active guard frames have passed and it can put a dent in their bravery. If done at max range, the amount of hits can be reduced to as low as 2 which naturally decreases Sphere Shot's overall damage output.
 
This is not a very strong move overall due to unfavorable frame data, average tracking, limited conversion opportunities and fluctuating damage. However, it can support Tidus at mid range when used sparingly and hit {{012emp}}'s out of traps if he is in range.


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''[Dodge] Turn, then throw sword. Evade foe's attack on start.''
''[Dodge] Turn, then throw sword. Evade foe's attack on start.''
A dodge attack with horizontal movement. The direction can be controlled during startup, but Tidus can only move left or right when locked on. Tidus is briefly invincible when the attack begins (20 frames at 60 FPS) and will throw a disjointed sword hitbox forward once the startup is over. The sword throw generates as much EX on hit as Hop Step, it has enough hit stun for assist combos and it can be followed up with the Quick Hit HP link.
Stick & Move can retaliate against attacks that stop tracking Tidus at the time of evasion, but the long startup and recovery also make it susceptible to blocks and [[Glossary_(Dissidia_012)#Assist_punish|'''Assist punishes''']]. Because the sword is not considered a separate projectile, Stick & Move can also poke through solid objects like walls and stage props. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7pLWp2p6D8 Stick & Move disjoint through wall.</ref> This does mean that Tidus can be staggered by mid priority attacks and regular blocks in places where this move can make contact, but
Stick & Move's dodge cancel window on hit is quite late into the animation. However, the sword is capable of damaging the opponent even when it returns back to Tidus which provides just enough time to dodge cancel and combo into Hop Step. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDOs-TVaqYg&t=18 Stick & Move return hit combo.</ref> This can be difficult to replicate against another human opponent, but it is worth noting as a solo dodge cancel combo starter regardless; It still generates additional meter and combos into commonly used assists.
Similiar to Full Slide, Stick & Move's vertical tracking is heavily influenced by assist calls. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KowbxKm8-DQ&t=101</ref> Stick & Move's increased tracking during assist call.</ref> That improves the attack's utility as a mid range whiff punisher against long recovery moves


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Revision as of 00:31, 3 August 2024

General Starter Guide Strategy
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Info
Name Tidus (ティーダ)
Original game Final Fantasy X
Base ATK (LV100) 110 (Average)
Base DEF (LV100) 111 (Average)
Run Speed 4 (Normal, Fast), 1.5 (EX Mode, Very Fast)
Dash Speed 73 (Normal, Fast), 65 (EX Mode, Fastest)
Fall Speed 73 (Normal, Above Average), 65 (EX Mode, Fastest)
Fall Speed Ratio After Dodge 20 (Normal, Very Fast), 14 (EX Mode, Very Fast)
Fastest BRV
Fastest HP
1-Hit HP
HP Links
Command Block
Weapon Swords, Grappling Weapons, Daggers, Thrown Weapons
Armor Shields, Bangles, Hats, Helms, Clothing,
Light armor, Headbands, Chestplates
Exclusive weapons Official Ball, Striker, Grand Slam, World Champion
Unlock
Alignment
Voice Actor (JP)
Voice Actor (ENG)


Strengths Weaknesses
  • Well rounded close range moveset that lets Tidus poke, whiff punish and rack up damage efficiently.
  • Mobility - Run speed, dash speed and fall speed after air dodges are all high tier, if not top of the line, which complement Tidus' offense and defense.
  • Post-dodge interactions - With strong movement, dodge punish options and evasive attacks to cover him, Tidus is well equipped for dodge punishment.
  • EX - Good EX generation on his pokes and EX Mode's increased damage relative to his health provide worthwhile returns over time, including one of the strongest EX Bursts in the game.
  • Increased tracking during assist call empower dodge punishment and vertical approaches alike with select few attacks, which is an uncommon strength in the roster.
  • HP Attacks' vulnerability to Assist Change can limit Tidus' ability to output HP damage safely, as he often relies on blocks and assist to land HPs.
  • Lackluster ranged tools - Despite having projectiles, their reward on hit and effectiveness in neutral make them unreliable for zoning or anti-zoning measures.
  • No single hit HP attack complicates Final EX Revenge situations.
  • Anti-block measures are often limited to delaying Hop Step or taking bigger risks with slower attacks. This becomes more apparent when dealing with command blocks.
  • Dodge attacks do not operate well against low recovery pokes due to slow startup, reducing their potential as cover for air dodges.


Overview

Tidus is an agile close-range fighter who can fight offensively and defensively as the situation demands. He is well rounded in close quarters, from the notorious Hop Step bravery to good call-out tools, meter gain and dodge punishment game. All of this is punctuated by his mobility; Every aspect of Tidus' movement ranks high or is flat out best in class. Creating distance and generating assist meter with linear dashes is no problem, nor is evading attacks with running and he is always competitive in EX Core races. On top of that, Tidus has one of the fastest post-air dodge fall ratios in the game which makes his aerial dodges a lot safer to use on average. And if the opponent is in range to punish his dodge, one of the three evasive bravery attacks can act a last resort retaliation to keep him safe.

When it comes to builds, Tidus commonly works with both EX and Assist with an emphasis on damage or bravery boost on dodge. Compared to Warrior of Light and Cloud who can specialise in several build styles, Tidus' competitive build variety is a bit less flexible. He is not a proficient user of Side by Side and he relies on assist to land his HPs. His average ATK and DEF stats may not impress at first, but building for bravery damage is worth the investment, especially against characters without high base defense stat. At high health, Tidus can also take advantage of the increased damage multiplier during his EX Mode, which affects not just his braveries but also EX Burst; At full health Tidus can score one of the strongest EX Bursts in the game. And even without high-end damage, Tidus generates a good amount of EX from most of his moves and he tends to land one of them frequently (Hop Step). This means that Tidus can establish a solid lead with meter over time, whether the player invests into EX or not.

Another one of his distinct strengths lies in unconventional use of assist - A handful of Tidus' attacks have greatly increased vertical tracking if they move Tidus during an assist call. This is great for surprise attacks and punishing air dodges or long-winded attacks from afar. The window for this is brief, but the movement is executed quickly.

Tidus' weaknesses may not be immediately apparent, but they do exist. His reliance on Hop Step and assist lowers his burst damage potential for individual interactions, which can skew the risk / reward ratio against him without meter. The few projectiles he has have limited reach, poor conversion potential or long animations. The other disjoint in Stick & Move bravery is telegraphed and his vertical reach with attacks is mostly below average without assist. The dodge attacks in general are telegraphed with little utility outside of the initial invincibility. His assist synergy is a bit limited -albeit effective as is- without ground due to short hit stun starters, slow startup, high knockback Chase enders or inadequate tracking on HPs. The prowess of the Aerith assist's synergy can also leave some whiff punishes and meter depletion on the table. The HP attacks have long animations on hit, which can restrict Tidus' avenues for HP damage if the opponent can escape with Assist Change. The act of multi-hit braveries during HP attacks presents another problem; Tidus cannot resolve EX Revenge checkmates quickly with a fast single hit HP.

In competitive play, Tidus has been ranked at mid tier or high tier. He exhibits strong fundamentals up close and his gameplan is straightforward and easy to pick up. His utility is largely shared across both ground and air moves, which can streamline his gameplay for players picking him up for the first time. Tidus can power through higher priority projectiles and even evade The Emperor's infamous Dreary Cell on hit, but he can also struggle to capitalise on these interactions at times. Even so, playing the long game for meter advantage is a tried and true strategy and he does not rely on walls for high damage or stage pressure. Overall, Tidus is a strong character in many ways and he is capable of competing against most of the roster without major struggles.

Bravery Attacks

Tidus' evasive bravery attacks Stick & Move, Dart & Weave and Cut & Run have built-in invincibility. 1-20 frames of invincibility normally, and then 1-40 frames of invincibility when used during EX mode (the same as normal dodge and a dodge with Evasion Boost respectively).

Ground

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
7, 13 (20) 11F Physical Melee Low 90
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Chase 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Close] Distance self from foe. Weak but fast.

A swift sword strike followed by a flying kick that pushes back both Tidus and the opponent. Hop Step is Tidus' key poke with fastest startup out of all his moves, low recovery and good EX gain at 90. On hit, the second hit can be confirmed with a lenient input window which leads to Chase, but it also works as an assist combo starter with Aerith assist. The initial hit has short hit stun, but it is enough to combo into other assists as well.

The spinning motion during Hop Step's first hit causes Tidus to cover his vicinity with an active hitbox around him. This, along with the low recovery can make it difficult to whiff punish Hop Step without clashing.

The ground version puts Tidus in an airborne state and the first hit will keep grounded opponents standing, which is important to note for Kuja and Jecht assist conversions.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
2 x 5, 6, 8, 16 (40) 25F Physical Melee Low 27
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Mid] Charging tackle. Deal more damage when close.

A forward tackle that goes through the opponent twice before striking them down for a wall rush. Sonic Buster is tied with Full Slide for highest base damage with Tidus' bravery attacks at 40 and it works well as a post-block punisher in close range. The lenient input windows for the two followup strikes can be confirmed with ease and they work well as assist combo starters.

Sonic Buster is one of Tidus' many multi-hit attacks that can deal more or less damage to the opponent depending how close he is at the time of performing it. This applies to the initial tackle and getting the maximum amount of hits is most reliable at point-blank range. Using this move from further distance will cause less hits to connect and subsequently reduce the attack's overall damage output slightly.

The startup is slow enough to be reactable and it even has a distinct sound cue. However, this sound effect is shared with Tidus' blocking state, so adept players can mask it with spot dashes to make it more ambigious to opponents who rely on audio to react to this move. Even so, using this move recklessly in the neutral is not advised and because Tidus commonly fights in the air, there may not be many opportunities to even apply it.

Sonic Buster's vertical tracking is not stellar, but it can increase exponentially during assist calls. [1]

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
4 x 8 (32) 41F Physical Ranged Mid 0
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Long] Hurl ball blazingly fast. Deal more damage when close.

A stationary blitzball throw. Sphere Shot is one of Tidus' three projectiles, but it is not very suited for frequent zoning or building assist meter. The startup is quite slow, the dodge cancel recovery window is average at best and the vertical tracking covers roughly an average ground jump's height.

The Ranged Mid priority means blocking Sphere Shot causes the opponent to stagger and as such, it is serviceable for calling out blocks or low priority pokes outside of Hop Step range. However, Tidus does not get enough frame advantage and proper spacing from a dodge cancel to connect his other moves. Assists that aren't Aerith can turn this interaction into a combo and on hit, wall rush is also available depending on position.

Sphere Shot can do a maximum amount of 8 hits for 32 base damage which is not bad and it scales with physical damage that is already a good investment for Tidus. But getting all hits is only possible at point-blank range, much like Sonic Buster. If done at the same when the opponent blocks, this move will hit after the active guard frames have passed and it can put a dent in their bravery. If done at max range, the amount of hits can be reduced to as low as 2 which naturally decreases Sphere Shot's overall damage output.

This is not a very strong move overall due to unfavorable frame data, average tracking, limited conversion opportunities and fluctuating damage. However, it can support Tidus at mid range when used sparingly and hit The Emperor's out of traps if he is in range.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
2 x 6, 10 (22) 53F Physical Melee Low ~90
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Chase, Dodge 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Dodge] Turn, then throw sword. Evade foe's attack on start.

A dodge attack with horizontal movement. The direction can be controlled during startup, but Tidus can only move left or right when locked on. Tidus is briefly invincible when the attack begins (20 frames at 60 FPS) and will throw a disjointed sword hitbox forward once the startup is over. The sword throw generates as much EX on hit as Hop Step, it has enough hit stun for assist combos and it can be followed up with the Quick Hit HP link.

Stick & Move can retaliate against attacks that stop tracking Tidus at the time of evasion, but the long startup and recovery also make it susceptible to blocks and Assist punishes. Because the sword is not considered a separate projectile, Stick & Move can also poke through solid objects like walls and stage props. [2] This does mean that Tidus can be staggered by mid priority attacks and regular blocks in places where this move can make contact, but

Stick & Move's dodge cancel window on hit is quite late into the animation. However, the sword is capable of damaging the opponent even when it returns back to Tidus which provides just enough time to dodge cancel and combo into Hop Step. [3] This can be difficult to replicate against another human opponent, but it is worth noting as a solo dodge cancel combo starter regardless; It still generates additional meter and combos into commonly used assists.

Similiar to Full Slide, Stick & Move's vertical tracking is heavily influenced by assist calls. [4] Stick & Move's increased tracking during assist call.</ref> That improves the attack's utility as a mid range whiff punisher against long recovery moves

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
1 x 6, 14 (20) 51F Physical Melee Low 75
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Chase, Dodge 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Dodge] Leap, then dive at high speed. Evade attack on start.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
2 x 5, 14 (24) 51F Physical Melee Low ~90
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Chase, Dodge 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Dodge] Retreat, then quickly charge. Evade attack on start.

Aerial

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
7, 13 (20) 11F Physical Melee Low 90
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Chase 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Close] Distance self from foe. Weak but fast.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
2 x 6, 5, 8, 15 (40) 25F Physical Melee Low 30
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Mid] Midair charge. Deal more damage when close.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
10 41F Physical Ranged Low 3
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
- 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Long] Throw blitzball; ricochets off environment.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
2 x 6, 10 (22) 53F Physical Melee Low ~90
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Chase, Dodge 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Dodge] Turn, then throw sword. Evade foe's attack on start.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
1 x 6, 14 (20) 51F Physical Melee Low 75
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Chase, Dodge 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Dodge] Leap, then dive at high speed. Evade attack on start.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
2 x 5, 24 (34) 51F Physical Melee Low ~90
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Chase, Dodge 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Dodge] Retreat, then quickly charge. Evade attack on start.

HP Attacks

Ground

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
1 x 4, 6 (10) 39F Physical Melee High, Block (Ranged Low) 90
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Magic Block 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Mid] Spinning approach. Breaks down foe's defenses.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
4, 1 x 6 (10) 53F Physical, Magical Melee High (kick), Ranged High (projectiles) 90
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
- 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Close] Kick foe, then fire magic. Slow, effective vs. any height.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
1 x 4, 3 (+7) ? Physical Melee High 0
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


Branching from Stick & Move (ground) [Combo] All-out flurry of attacks.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
1 x 4, 3 (+7) ? Physical Melee High 0
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


Branching from Dart & Weave (ground) [Combo] All-out flurry of attacks.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
1 x 4, 3 (+7) ? Physical Melee High 0
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


Branching from Cut & Run (ground) [Combo] All-out flurry of attacks.

Aerial

All versions of Quick Hit share the same attack data.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
5 or 10 (moogle), 10 (15 / 20) 61F Physical Ranged High 30
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Long] Powerful triple kick. Long opening, but great range.

10 % chance of getting a Moogle ball on any of the three shots. If Moogle appears on the first kick, the damage multiplier becomes 10 instead of 5.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
4, 1 x 6 (10) 53F Physical, Magical Melee High (kick), Ranged High (projectiles) 90
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
- 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Close] Kick foe, then fire magic. Slow, effective vs. any height.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
2 x 5 (10) 53F Physical Melee High 90
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
- 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


[Mid] Rush forward with swimming movement. Vertically limited, but charges a long way.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
1 x 4, 3 (+7) ? Physical Melee High 0
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


Branching from Stick & Move (midair) [Combo] All-out flurry of attacks.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
1 x 4, 3 (+7) ? Physical Melee High 0
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


Branching from Dart & Weave (midair) [Combo] All-out flurry of attacks.

Damage multiplier Startup frame Type Priority EX Force
1 x 4, 3 (+7) ? Physical Melee High 0
Effects CP (Mastered) Cancels Assist Gain (Attack) Assist Gain (Hit)
Wall Rush 30 (15)
Unlocked at
level
Mastered at
AP


Branching from Cut & Run (midair) [Combo] All-out flurry of attacks.

EX Mode: Equipped Caladbolg!

Effects:

  • Regen
  • Critical Boost
  • Mirror Dash
  • Caladbolg (ATK)
  • Caladbolg (DODGE)

Mirror Dash

[Active while running] Top running speed increases, deflecting weak magical attacks.

Movement speed increases by x1.25. Block Ranged Low while running.

Caladbolg (ATK)

[Always active while in EX Mode] The higher the user's HP, the sharper the weapon's blade.

Damage multiplier scales to x1~x2 according to current HP%, round down to nearest integer. Higher health means higher damage multiplier.

Caladbolg (DODGE)

[Always active while in EX Mode] The period of invincibility between dodging and attacking increases.

Dodge frames, the invincibility period during a dodge is increased from 1-20 frames to 1-40 frames, which is the same as using the Evasion Boost basic ability.

EX Burst: Blitz Ace

A flurry of attacks leading to a magnificent shot. Watch your timing and press circle when the cursor hits the center.

Damage multiplier (initial) Damage multiplier (rest) Type
1,1 (2) 2x5, 3, 55 (68) (70 total, scales with current HP%) Physical


Combos

Solo

Tidus has a few solo combos, with difficulty and practicality varying greatly.

Combo Approximate damage (multipliers) Approximate EX Force Notes Video
Dart & Weave > DC (up, down) > Hop Step 39~40 (1x5~1x6, 14, 7, 13) 165 (75, 90) Somewhat practical solo combo, though there may not be many opportunities to land this. Timing is not very lenient and the dodge cancel arc may change depending on the camera angle, but the idea is to move up and connect Hop Step as soon as possible. Video
Cut & Run (midair) > DC (up) > Hop Step 48~54 (2x2~2x5, 24, 7, 13) 180 Difficult, but a rewarding combo for EX. Does not require Adamant Chains, but timing for the dodge cancel and the followup is strict. Video
Stick & Move (return hit) > DC (up, quarter circle left) > Hop Step 30 (10, 7, 13) 150 (60, 90) Impractical in most situations as it requires missing the initial sword throw. Good EX gain, however. Video

Assist

Ground

Generally speaking, most of Tidus' ground attacks that can combo into Aerith assist also work in the air. Therefore, this section will only cover Sonic Buster, Tidus' only grounded starter.

Starter Combo Damage EX Force Notes Video
Sonic Buster (WR) -- 40 + WR (2x5, 6, 8, 16) 27 -- --
Aerith > WR > Free Air Dash x2 > Cut & Run (midair) > Quick Hit 73~81 + HP WR (2x5, 6, 8, 16, 2x2~2x5, 24, 1x4, 3 + HP WR) 117 (27, 90) Free Air Dash to close distance and build assist meter with Assist Gauge Up Dash ability. Video

Aerial

Most attacks leave Tidus airborne, which allow him to call Aerith for Seal Evil combos. This includes grounded versions of Hop Step, Stick & Move, Cut & Run, Dart & Weave and Energy Rain.

Cut & Run (midair) > Quick Hit is a common, relatively high power assist combo ender for Tidus. That will be listed in the following combos most of the time. Other enders may be prioritized depending on the situation, such as Jecht Shot to avoid LV2 Assist Change stagger or Slice and Dice to confuse Assist Change retaliation attempts.

Starter Combo Damage EX Force Notes Video
Hop Step -- 20 (7, 13) 90 -- --
Aerith > Empty Chase > air jump (behind opponent) > Cut & Run > Quick hit 55~61 (7, 13, 2x2~2x5, 24, 1x4, 3) 180 (90, 90) Basic and reliable. Move behind opponent for Sneak Attack critical hits. Video
Aerith > Chase HP > HP dodged > air jump (behind opponent) > Cut & Run > Quick Hit 55-61 + HP WR (7, 13, 2x2~2x5, 24, 1x4, 3 + HP WR) 195 (90, 15, 90) If the opponent dodges the chase HP, this generates more EX and still lets Tidus follow up with more bravery damage. But only if it's evaded this way; Opting to eat the chase HP can end the combo early without wall rush. Video
Full Slide (2 parts) -- 19~25 (2x3~2x6, 5, 8) 27 Mid-stage combo starter, also works with Aerith assist when clashed with reduced damage. The further Tidus is from opponent, the less damage Full Slide will do on hit. --
Aerith > DC > Free Air Dash > Cut & Run > Quick Hit 54~66 + HP WR (2x3~2x6, 5, 8, 2x2~2x5, 24, 1x4, 3 + HP WR) 120 (30, 90) Reliable wall-less combo. If ceiling is closer than wall, you can opt for Jech Shot ender instead for wall rush damage. Video
Full Slide (Wall Rush) -- 40 + WR (2x6, 5, 8, 15) 30 -- --
Aerith > WR > Free Air Dash > Jecht Shot 49~60 + HP WR (40 + WR, 15~20 + HP WR) 60 (30, 30) For ceiling wall rush or maintaining distance from opponent. Video
Cut & Run (ground) -- 18~24 (2x2~2x5, 14) 90 Less damage than air version, but same combo structure otherwise. Deals less damage the later this move connects, the minimum damage is lowballed and assumes Cut & Run is done somewhat close to the opponent. --
Aerith > Empty Chase > air jump (behind opponent) > Cut & Run (midair) > Quick Hit 53~65 + HP WR (18~24, 28~34, 1x4, 3 + HP WR) 180 (90, 90) -- Video
Cut & Run (midair) > Quick Hit (Wall Rush) -- 35~41 + HP WR (28~34, 7 + HP WR) ~90 Basic wall rush starter, but good if it evaded a prior attack. Much like Cut & Run (ground), minimum damage for the aerial version is lowballed and assumes Cut & Run is done somewhat close to the opponent. --
Aerith > WR > DC > Cut & Run (midair) > Quick Hit 70~82 + HP WR (28~34, 7 + HP WR, 28~34, 7 + HP WR) 180 (90, 90) Video
-- Cut & Run (midair) > Quick Hit > Aerith (after 2nd part of Quick Hit) > Aerith HIT (knockback cancel) > DC (behind opponent) > Cut & Run (midair) > Aerith > Empty Chase > Dodge (behind opponent) > Cut & Run (midair) > Quick Hit 98~116 + HP WR (28~34, 7 + HP, 28~34, 28~34, 7 + HP WR) 270 (90, 90, 90) 2-bar assist combo. Highest EX gain with HP damage and wall rush potential. Use during EX Mode for devastating results. Video
Stick & Move -- 20~22 (2x5~2x6, 10) ~90 If Quick Hit is not preferred, Stick & Move still has enough hit stun for Aerith. --
Aerith > Empty Chase > air jump (behind opponent) > Cut & Run > Quick Hit 55~63 + HP WR (20~22, 28~34, 7 + HP WR) 180 (90, 90) -- Video
Dart & Weave -- 19~20 (1x5~1x6, 14) 75 Technically Tidus' strongest combo starter in terms of EX gain due to the Hop Step DC combo, but this move is not commonly prioritized. --
Aerith > Empty Chase > air jump (behind opponent) > Cut & Run > Quick Hit 54~61 + HP WR (19~20, 28~34, 7 + HP WR) 165 (75, 90) Basic conversion. Video
DC (up, down) > Hop Step > Aerith > Empty Chase > Dodge (behind opponent) > Cut & Run > Quick Hit 74~81 + HP WR (19~20, 20, 28~34, 7 + HP WR) 255 (75, 90, 90) -- Video
Energy Rain -- 10 (4, 1x6) 90 Serviceable starter if done with a good read on the opponent. --
Aerith > Free Air Dash (behind opponent) > Cut & Run (midair) > Quick Hit 45~51 (10, 28~34, 7 + HP WR) 180 (90, 90) -- Video
Slice & Dice -- 10 (2x5) 90 Serviceable starter if done with a good read on the opponent. --
Aerith > Free Air Dash (behind opponent) > Cut & Run (midair) > Quick Hit 45~51 + HP WR (10, 28~34, 7 + HP WR) 180 (90, 90) -- Video
Jecht Shot (Wall Rush) -- 15~20 (5~10, 10) 30 Random Moogle can increase damage. Good wall rush potential. --
Aerith > Wall Rush > Free Air Dash x2 > Cut & Run (midair) > Quick Hit 50~61 + HP WR (15~20, 28~34, 7 + HP WR) 120 (30, 90) Aerith holds long enough to approach and land Cut & Run. Depending on distance, it can be possible to still position behind the opponent for additional Sneak Attack critical hits. Video

Builds

Stats
HP 9972
CP 450
BRV 917
ATK 180
DEF 184
LUK 60
Max Booster x13.9
Special Effect: Adamant Chains
Equipment
Assist Aerith
Weapon World Champion
Hand Adamant Shield
Head Adamant Helm
Body Adamant Vest
Accessory 1 accessory_basic.png Zephyr Cloak
Accessory 2 accessory_booster.png BRV > Base Value
Accessory 3 accessory_booster.png Large Gap in BRV
Accessory 4 accessory_booster.png Summon Unused
Accessory 5 accessory_booster.png Pre-EX Mode
Accessory 6 accessory_booster.png Pre-EX Revenge
Accessory 7 accessory_booster.png Aerial
Accessory 8 accessory_booster.png After 30 Seconds
Accessory 9 accessory_booster.png Opponent Empty EX Gauge
Accessory 10 accessory_booster.png Opponent Summon Unused
Summon Rubicante


Dedicated bravery boost on dodge.

Recommended against The Emperor, this build will provide bravery every time Tidus dodges an attack or a projectile with invincibility. If Aerial booster is not active, max booster value is x9.3.

Substitutes: Few adjustments can be made to use this build against characters with less reliance on zoning.

Booster accessory: Empty EX Gauge for Dismay Shock if opponent is not using Side by Side.

A hybrid variant of this build adjusts accessories.

Hybrid variant

Stats
HP 9972
CP 450
BRV 917
ATK 180
DEF 184
LUK 60
Max Booster x8.9
Special Effect: Adamant Chains
Equipment
Assist Aerith
Weapon World Champion
Hand Adamant Shield
Head Adamant Helm
Body Adamant Vest
Accessory 1 accessory_basic.png Muscle Belt
Accessory 2 accessory_basic.png Zephyr Cloak
Accessory 3 accessory_basic.png Dismay Shock
Accessory 4 accessory_booster.png Large Gap in HP
Accessory 5 accessory_booster.png BRV > Base Value
Accessory 6 accessory_booster.png Summon Unused
Accessory 7 accessory_booster.png Pre-EX Mode
Accessory 8 accessory_booster.png Pre-EX Revenge
Accessory 9 accessory_booster.png Aerial
Accessory 10 accessory_booster.png Summon Unused
Summon Rubicante


Without Aerial, max booster value is x5.9. Without Large Gap in HP and Aerial, max booster value is x3.9.

Stats
HP 10299
CP 450
BRV 917
ATK 181
DEF 182
LUK 60
Max Booster x8.2
Special Effect: Seal of Lufenia
Equipment
Assist Aerith
Weapon World Champion
Hand Lufenian Dirk
Head Lufenian Headband
Body Lufenian Vest
Accessory 1 accessory_basic.png Hyper Ring
Accessory 2 accessory_basic.png Muscle Belt
Accessory 3 accessory_basic.png Dismay Shock
Accessory 4 accessory_booster.png Large Gap in HP
Accessory 5 accessory_booster.png Summon Unused
Accessory 6 accessory_booster.png Pre-EX Mode
Accessory 7 accessory_booster.png Pre-EX Revenge
Accessory 8 accessory_booster.png Aerial
Accessory 9 accessory_booster.png After 30 Seconds
Accessory 10 accessory_booster.png Opponent Summon Unused
Summon Scarmiglione


CP Glitch Thief's Gear.

A general purpose damage build. Boosters scale well with advantage and consistent aerial play. x3.0 before aerial or Large Gap in HP activate. x4.6 with aerial. x5.5 with aerial + After 30 seconds. And finally, x8.2 when all boosters are active.

Substitutes Basic accessory: Dismay Shock to Empty EX Gauge (vs. Side by Side, boosts damage even further)

Booster accessory: After 30 Seconds to BRV > Base Value

Assist

Tidus' assist data

Type Attack Startup Position Spawn Damage multiplier Effects
BRV Sonic Buster 25F Ground Opponent 2 x 5, 6, 8, 16 Wall Rush
BRV Hop Step 11F Air Opponent 7, 13 (20) Chase
HP Spiral Cut 39F Ground Opponent 1 x 4, 6 (10) Chase
HP Slice and Dice 53F Air Opponent 2 x 5 (10) Chase


Assists

Tidus works well with Aerith, Jecht, Kuja.

References

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Strengths and weaknesses Done. 2 / 2
Overview Done. 1 / 1
Bravery Attacks Ability info, overviews, images. 5 / 5
HP Attacks Ability info, overviews, images. 5 / 5
EX Mode Basic info, EX mode & EX Burst overview, image. Write about mirror dash? 2 / 3
Combos Solo combos added. Assist combos (Aerith) added. Add other assist combos. Add more solo combos if they exist. 6 / 6
Builds 3 builds, with overviews. Adjust based on feedback, if necessary. Add more niche builds, otherwise in good state. 10 / 10
Assist Assist data, Tidus assist overview. Overviews for other assists. 3 / 3
Matchups Matchup analysis and tips. 0 / 32
Resources Helpful links related to character. 0 / 1
Starter Guide Page created, initial content added. Adjust based on feedback. 9 / 9
Strategy Basic strategies and counterstrategies. 6 / 6